MU Peeves Thread

Third Eye

Yeah, like, of all the assumptions I made when this peeve was posted, ‘couldn’t wait 14 days for TS’ wasn’t on the Bingo card.

There are so many horny mofos out there who aren’t on games for any other reason, I get that.

I’m somewhat baffled they don’t just go to sex games or Gdoc porn with a friend but…idk I am not an expert in these things.

Redbird

@Pavel I have to disagree.

It sounds like it was very hard indeed.

Yam

I assume in this case sheets are hidden from other players, so the other party can’t ascertain whether they’re breaking the policy? Or is there something I’m missing?

Pavel

@Third-Eye said in MU Peeves Thread:

Gdoc porn with a friend

The last thing I want is Google giving me an AI summary of my TS.

helvetica

@Yam tbh, I can see not knowing whether someone “new” has been playing for two weeks or even a month. I barely perceive the passage of time in real life, let alone pretend life. Characters are created and idle reaped all in darkness.

Muscle Car

@Pavel I shuddered IRL.

Jennkryst

@Pavel said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Third-Eye said in MU Peeves Thread:

Gdoc porn with a friend

The last thing I want is Google giving me an AI summary of my TS.

I think if enough of us dedicate ourselves enough, we could finally break AI for good.

Roz

it’s super sketch and not okay to lie about anything to get TS

but simultaneously

@howyadoin said in MU Peeves Thread:

There is a prohibition on relationship roleplay with characters that have been in the game for less than two weeks. The rule applies even to returning players playing a new character.

this is a weird rule for a game to have

Pavel

@Roz said in MU Peeves Thread:

this is a weird rule for a game to have

I suppose it might make sense on a game where new characters explicitly can’t have known each other previously… but I imagine it’s more likely a case of a staffer with more than a few bad experiences crying “enough is enough.”

howyadoin

@Roz Yeah - I didn’t want to go on the “good vs. bad policy” side quest, because the policy really isn’t any part of the issue in this scenario.

For, you see, “Pat” also broke the rule with players who were willing to break the rule. Or who at the very least weren’t looking to verify with an obviously new character that they weren’t breaking the rule.

But “Pat” wasn’t satisfied and couldn’t be happy limiting themself to just those players who were fine with being complicit.

“Pat” just had to also pursue players who were actively trying to follow the rule, and manipulate them.

Kestrel

I think it’s a good rule. It prevents a couple things simultaneously:

Newbies being hounded out the gate for TS
The game turning into a “sex game” because people join just for that and ignore everything else. A 2 week pause means you need to focus some on story first.

That said, maybe I’m just prude, but I can’t help but victim blame Pat’s e-bedmates a little. Because you couldn’t be deceived about someone being on the game for under two weeks if you yourself were waiting at least two weeks to get to know another player/character before you jump to TS.

In terms of outrage if not enforcement, the spirit of the rule matters a little more than me than the rule itself. And idk guys. Like how indiscriminate are you being that you manage to get “tricked” by someone running through half the who list in half a month? When are you finding enough time for proper introductory scenes and flirting in between? For this to work, a substantial portion of the playerbase would already have to be treating the game like an orgy.

Roz

@Kestrel said in MU Peeves Thread:

I think it’s a good rule. It prevents a couple things simultaneously:

Newbies being hounded out the gate for TS

The game turning into a “sex game” because people join just for that and ignore everything else. A 2 week pause means you need to focus some on story first.

it’s not going to prevent either of those things, and people having shippy RP early isn’t what turns a game into a sex game.

plus now if someone even just mixes up dates and the other person gets super toxic on them, there is leverage hanging over them to not report bad behavior to staff.

That said, maybe I’m just prude, but I can’t help but victim blame Pat’s e-bedmates a little. Because you couldn’t be deceived about someone being on the game for under two weeks if you yourself were waiting at least two weeks to get to know another player/character before you jump to TS.

In terms of outrage if not enforcement, the spirit of the rule matters a little more than me than the rule itself. And idk guys. Like how indiscriminate are you being that you manage to get “tricked” by someone running through half the who list in half a month? When are you finding enough time for proper introductory scenes and flirting in between? For this to work, a substantial portion of the playerbase would already have to be treating the game like an orgy.

yeeeeeeah this all just sounds slut-shamey. you’re literally like “well if you hadn’t been so slutty to jump into TS so fast, you wouldn’t have gotten lied to.”

spiriferida

@Kestrel

The way you prevent your game from becoming a sex game is just… Don’t make it a game focused around sex? I know L&L is popular and might be a place where you have to worry about people jumping into relationships but it’s pretty easy to make a game where the draw of themes and content of the RP itself isn’t just relationships. I get that your average MU player might try and make any random game into their personal sandbox regardless, but hassling people for relationships is bad behavior whether or not the target has been in game for 2 days or 6 years, so just make that the bannable behavior and keep open lines of communication with new players as they get settled in.

ETA: also in this age of slower RP a 2-week ban can still mean someone’s second rp scene is sex based, 2 weeks is nothing.

Ominous

@spiriferida For L&L, really play up the politics, intrigue, animosity between rival families, and management aspects to the level that no one has time to knock boots on screen.

Wizz

@howyadoin said in MU Peeves Thread:

Yeah - I didn’t want to go on the “good vs. bad policy” side quest,

stop a debate about a game policy?

here?

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helvetica

@Ominous said in MU Peeves Thread:

@spiriferida For L&L, really play up the politics, intrigue, animosity between rival families, and management aspects to the level that no one has time to knock boots on screen.

Demand characters have so many administrative skills, they become virtually unfuckable.

Tez

@helvetica said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Ominous said in MU Peeves Thread:

@spiriferida For L&L, really play up the politics, intrigue, animosity between rival families, and management aspects to the level that no one has time to knock boots on screen.

Demand characters have so many administrative skills, they become virtually unfuckable.

Joke’s on you, I’m into that shit

Muscle Car

@Tez The Administrator’s Thinly Veiled Fetish! That means every time you interact here…🫣

Yam

My question is, if a game is going to have a policy that forbids getting into a relationship with another character that hasn’t been around for more than two weeks yet (and they can have whatever policy they want), surely there would be a way for the other player to check the actual sheet date of that character’s creation… right? SURELY?

I’m not entirely sure what I’d do if someone spanked me for flirting stupidly at my friend’s character on day 13, admittedly.

And yeah, note that this is unrelated to people lying, that sucks.

Tez

@Muscle-Car Why do you think I’m always so eager to fork threads?