RPing with Nobody
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Man, I feel weird even writing journals and vignettes. Mia’s were (mostly) private for reasons beyond just IC secrecy and I think the first Ares game I was on that had them, I wrote a total of three of them. Two of them resulted in multiple people messaging me to give me compliments and at least one person told me that they cried reading it, but like…
As nice as they were being and as flattered as I should’ve been, I just felt wildly uncomfortable. Like this was the RP equivalent of dropping unsolicited dick pics in the entire game’s lap and expecting a positive response when everyone else would be sitting there like “WTF? Why did you think we wanted this?!” or something. Not knocking anyone who writes them or enjoys them, but I just don’t expect other people to care about my writing or my characters that much unless they’re actively participating, too.
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(Thanks @watno)
I forgot that this was a thing on Ares MUSHes. Most of my experience with solo roleplay has been with solo TTRPG games. Speaking of which, there’s a new sourcebook for Cyberpunk RED called Single Player Mode, which has solo rules for play.
I think there are some useful things with journaling in games, but it’s one of those things where you have to consider the point, perspective, and tone of what you’re writing.
- Is the actual point of the writing to be a journal for you? If so, it’s probably not going to be any more useful to have it on a website or wiki or something so that other people can read it. Having that is essentially a way to say “Hey, check out the depths of my character, wouldn’t it be cool to RP with me” rather than free creative writing.
- Is your perspective from your character’s internal thoughts related to something they’re witnessing, or are you mentalizing another character’s perspective? Even if you are taking a relatively positive view of someone else’s character’s perspective, it’s likely best to have a scene with that person.
- Is this journal going to make you feel worse about a situation that you’re in with your character? Is it going to cause an amount of bleed that would be unexpected beyond a standard scene? If so, for your own mental health’s sake, do not write it. That’s not to say “don’t write sad things,” but more “don’t get yourself further stuck in a rut if you feel your character is having problems that are causing you to relate too heavily to their struggle.” (i.e., consider the tone of what you’re writing)
"And the Fool says, pointing to the invertebrate fauna feeding in the graves: 'Here a monarchy reigns, mightier than you: His Majesty the Worm.'"
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There was this one very sad sack on a game I used to hang who would join group scenes then post themselves doing stuff solo, not involving or inviting anyone. Even to ignoring invitation. They’d get real miserable and start adding editorial in their own posts like “because she is not needed.” They had very bad traits in addition to that, but I’ll never forget how performatively alone they loved to be.
Got what you wanted, lost what you had.
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@Muscle-Car said in RPing with Nobody:
There was this one very sad sack on a game I used to hang who would join group scenes then post themselves doing stuff solo, not involving or inviting anyone. Even to ignoring invitation. They’d get real miserable and start adding editorial in their own posts like “because she is not needed.” They had very bad traits in addition to that, but I’ll never forget how performatively alone they loved to be.
I guarantee that this person deeply wanted someone to be like “oh, no, you’re a critical part of our group!!! you have to stay!!!”
Ugh, haha.
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@Muscle-Car said in RPing with Nobody:
They’d get real miserable and start adding editorial in their own posts like “because she is not needed.”
Encountered this. They added aggressive meta and moodily (ICly) sulked on the lawn to pluck blades of grass, like an unhappy grade schooler.
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I first started RPing by joining PernMUSH and posing into empty rooms.
“Banain sat down at the table and watched the other people eat.”
Eventually someone saw me on +watch and joined me, lol. That person introduced me to RP, explained how the commands worked, and is the reason I’m still bothering all of you today~
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@somasatori said in RPing with Nobody:
I forgot that this was a thing on Ares MUSHes
It’s not really Ares-specific. I first encountered this with people posting solo vignettes on LiveJournal way way way before Ares. More recently it was a thing on various games with MediaWiki/Wikidot wikis. I think it just gets a little more formalized/visible on Ares games because of the scene type tagging.
@Juniper said in RPing with Nobody:
That’s weird. Like at that point, at least write a vignette and post it on the forum so someone can read it. Or write a book offline?
The showboating part is weird to me, but I’ve written a fair bit of solo stuff with no intent to share. Sometimes it helps me flesh out a character. Or it can be fun to put down the details of how an off-camera scene went down. I just like to write, really. It’s like someone above talked about doodling.
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@Faraday said in RPing with Nobody:
@somasatori said in RPing with Nobody:
I forgot that this was a thing on Ares MUSHes
It’s not really Ares-specific. I first encountered this with people posting solo vignettes on LiveJournal way way way before Ares. More recently it was a thing on various games with MediaWiki/Wikidot wikis. I think it just gets a little more formalized/visible on Ares games because of the scene type tagging.
Maybe not Ares specific. I meant more that other platforms typically don’t have a built-in journaling function.
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I just totally remembered something from my past. A LARP I played in years and years ago (all of the LARP near me is dead now, so much for keeping up that aspect of the RP hobby) had a thing where if you posted an IC story of your characters activities between games, you’d get an extra few XP before the next game. I technically have done solo RP before, but it was within the bounds of a larger non-solo game.
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My experience with ‘solo rp’ isn’t MUSH based. But in my pre-mush games, this was frequently called ‘blue booking’, and it was used for little peeks into a character’s life that didn’t always warrant a scene.
In some games characters had a perpetual thread on a forum where they’d post their blue books, they were available to everyone to read, in others you just shared where you wanted, in some only staff saw them. Some sites awarded XP for them, some only for really well written ones, and some not at all. Some places allowed blue book submissions for XP justifications.
I tend to treat RP games like collaborative story telling between me and other players, rather than just a thing my character is experiencing, so blue books were often a way for me to add another layer to the story. Sometimes they’d be flash backs to significant parts of their life, sometimes aftermath to emotionally punchy scenes, sometimes legit journal entries.
It often felt like the RP equivalent of throwing in some material for the player, the way a cartoon throws in some material for the parent.
But there wasn’t really a showboating component to it.
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@tsar said in RPing with Nobody:
I first started RPing by joining PernMUSH and posing into empty rooms.
“Banain sat down at the table and watched the other people eat.”
Eventually someone saw me on +watch and joined me, lol. That person introduced me to RP, explained how the commands worked, and is the reason I’m still bothering all of you today~
Okay, I’m going to go to the bar and watch the person at the table doing <something> to show I didn’t read the pose about what they’re doing and just wanted an excuse to be in the room for everyone to give me xp/noms, because I was being that interactive and not actually just RPing with myself.
ETA - I just had a cursed thought occur to me. Does that count as RP voyeurism, where you just watch other people do a thing IC that you don’t (intentionally) interact with, not because of your character intentionally being a wallflower or the like, but you as the player just “pretend” to be there engaging?
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ETA - I just had a cursed thought occur to me. Does that count as RP voyeurism, where you just watch other people do a thing IC that you don’t (intentionally) interact with, not because of your character intentionally being a wallflower or the like, but you as the player just “pretend” to be there engaging?
Me watching reality tv for the same reason:
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I solo LARP every time I go up a flight of stairs or try to squeeze through a closing door before it shuts.
I liked journaling. It was the only RP-adjacent thing I could do on a weekly basis for a while. But writing like that… I don’t know if I consider it RP, even if writing in-character.
Vignettes are nifty if they add to an on going story. I don’t think I could exclusively just do vignettes over and over again and feel like anything other than a waste of time.
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If we expand out from the MUniverse I can recall solo RPing a lot on play by forum games. But that, much like the vignette most recently demonstrated and expanded upon in the Ares system, was… it was sort of like RPing for an audience, rather than RPing solo. Does that make sense, or make it different?
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I always thought of vignettes and journals/blue books and things like that less like solo RP and more like RP hooks–you’re putting it out there hoping someone reads it and is like gee this person sounds cool or hey I have information on that I could help them with.
So I guess it is kind of like throwing a (long) pose out into an empty room and hoping that someone sees it when they come in and wants to pose back.
