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@Kestrel said:

@RightMeow said:

HR circles back to let me know the photo has been deleted. However, the male co-worker said he’s reaching out to his therapist about it and my female HR thinks that’s really good enough. As the photo was deleted and there was no harm.

Why are they centring his feelings. Wtf is this pickme ass logic. I assume he’s a grown adult?? Oh wow so sad he’s still working through his issues to not take an inappropriate picture of a colleague without consent. Poor him, hope he can make it through this tough time???

Because that’s the path of least amount of work for HR and probably exposes to the company the least amount of risk to a successful lawsuit. Terminating an employee is a lot of work and exposes the company to a wrongful termination lawsuit. Putting an official warning or mark on that employee’s record also exposes them to a potential lawsuit if @rightmeow wishes to sue them, because now there is evidence of wrongdoing.

Now I know we have a number of lawyers in this community so they can correct me if I’m wrong or provide more clarification, but this is what I’ve heard from others working in corporate and what I’ve seen in my corporate career. Many of us agree and have an understanding that HR is not there to help you. They are there to help and protect the company as their employee.

@RightMeow said:

There’s no escalation at this point and not really one to go to. It’s just very frustrating as he’s had to be coached about making comments about people. I just keep thinking what if this was the minor child I have in my employ.

Then I was like, am I being weird? I logically know I’m not but well thanks. It helps to hear that my reaction is probably the more sane one.

It’s also shitty where HR, at least in big companies like the one I work in, won’t escalate unless a lawsuit is possible or likely. Then they will put on a song and dance to try to show they are doing something, which is never a permanent fix. Unfortunately, filing a lawsuit is basically the nuclear option and almost ends up burning bridges.

@Faraday said in Staff Bits Linking Handles:

@bear_necessities said in Staff Bits Linking Handles:

As far as staff having a handle, I prefer to play on games where I know the admin. I do think staff alts should be tagged.

I’m 100% on board with this as well.

I’m also in full agreement with this as well for staff. If a game is staffed by people I’ve played with before, there is a higher degree of trust given even before fully checking out the game. If I also see people I recognize and have enjoyed playing with in the past also on the game as well, that’s another point to the game as well. Like @bear_necessities mentioned, I also fully understand why some people don’t want to link themselves due to privacy and personal safety reasons. There are pros and cons to linking and not linking, each person will have to weigh them and decide for themselves.

That is also why I always tag my characters with my handle. One, it let’s people know who I am who have played with me before. If they enjoyed RPing with me in the past, chances are I always had a good time since fun RP is usually a two way street. If they didn’t like RPing with me, I don’t take it as a personal slight but it also prevents the other person from wasting their time and feeling disappointed after finding out who I am.

Lastly, it’s also fun to run into people that you haven’t interacted with in a long time who you wouldn’t recognize if they didn’t reach out to you because they recognize your handle or the history of games you’ve played on.

@RightMeow said in MU Peeves Thread:

My peeve is that this hobby is like a teenage toxic ex to me. I want to give it time, but I don’t have time to really give it. I like the good times, but the bad times were BAD. However, I still really love and miss it. I can’t really quit it, but I can’t start it and I’m in a loop of I miss the stories and writing, but then… but then.

I love all of you though!

Having been in this hobby for so long, I must be one of the rare lucky ones that have really lucked out on not having many bad times, at least ones that I recall. But the good times were definitely fun and what draws me back to this hobby when I have time and the mental bandwidth to try to put an earnest effort into a game.

I agree with the sentiment that instead of removing a character archetype completely as an valid option, there needs to be a clear separation and understanding of IC and OOC intent. One must also acknowledge that playing this type of character is similar to playing a ‘bad guy’ in a cooperative PvE game.

It’s incredibly challenging to play a ‘bad guy’ that not only provides more depth in a story but also ensures that everyone is having fun in the process instead of being antagonized. Playing a pacifist in the examples provided is just like that, it needs to be done in a way that can enrich the story, provide different perspectives IC, while also doing in a way that it’s not just to troll other players. ICA = ICC definitely comes into play, if a pacifist’s actions becomes a detriment to the group’s success or survival, they can be removed in an IC manner, whether it’s exile or whatever else. Just like if a pirate continues to proclaim and protest the pillaging of goods, they are forced to walk the plank.

If it crosses into the OOC boundary and the player is just there to give everyone a hard time, that is when staff has to step in. As I mentioned in an earlier post, whether it is a PvP or CvC game, staff needs to be fair but also direct in its decisions. This includes asking problem players to leave as soon as they become a problem and do not change. If a pacifist is doing it to troll others, they should be shown the door.

I also believe that it is important to categorize cooperative character conflict as CvC and not PvP. PvP is a competition between players, and players strive to beat their competition, which is antithesis to cooperative RP. Character vs Character is a much more accurate designation to use in my opinion.

For a CvC system to succeed, I believe that a very firm hand by staff is required, because it is much easier for any small misunderstandings or issues to fester into something big, especially in silence. These needs to be resolved as soon as possible, even if it means showing certain players the door that may initially prove to be a benefit and a contribution to the community but over time, has become a detriment that are also unable to recognize the issue or change for the better.

Fairness will be the hardest to maintain in a CvC environment, even if there is a cooperative mentality, because each player will have their own goals for their characters and stories they want to tell. So a fleshed out system on how IC conflicts are resolved will be needed, whether it is through dice rolls, plot/story points, IC resource management, etc.

@somasatori said in Numetal/Retromux:

That said, PVP is a difficult one. On one hand, if you explicitly prohibit PVP in a WoD environment, it takes some of the bite out of inter-sphere relations. On the other hand, allowing for a no-holds-barred environment will make the game – from examples I’ve seen – into a tedious free-for-all. I’m not sure if it’s just my perception based on the people I talk to, but I feel like interest in PVP has dropped off in the last little while.

I have not played WoD before but another issue with PvP or even RP that is PvP adjacent player interests clash, even with staff resolution, there may be claims that staff favoritism is involved or that they are part of the popular clique, that is why they ‘won’. PvP is extremely difficult to do properly in cooperative RP.

Went from 2+ years ago to Within the last week thanks to The Becoming, Aegis Company, and Empty Night.

@real_mirage said in Scenes within Scenes:

@Wuff

Why even play on a game with a large player base that is suppose to interact with each other then? I have always enjoyed large scenes because I believe it makes the world feel more alive. Even if its a scene I have nothing to do in, getting 20/30/40+ people together, online, all at once, is cool. Tables and places can make that more manageable, but I think the chaos of a large scene is part of the charm.

A game with a large player base I don’t mind, that provides a much wider variety of opportunities for RP. A large number of people in one scene? Definitely not for me for a number of reasons.

1. Pacing. The larger the scene, the slower the pacing and it’s a domino effect. If you want to interact with everyone, you will need to wait for a number of poses before being able to respond, including a GM emit if it’s an event. So if someone has to take a little more time to think of how to react and the next person has to do the same, the pacing can grind to a very slow pace. Which can result to a scene going 5+ hours to get through enough pose rounds for something substantial to be accomplished without feeling rushed.

2. Easier for people to get lost in the mix, harder to feel like you are contribute meaningfully, more challenging for those that do not naturally have a louder voice to be heard.

3. For me, large scenes are much more mentally taxing to keep track of what is going on with everyone and being constantly worried that you missed something someone else did that was crucial. You also hate to feel like you left someone out by accident and they take it as a slight.

4. Brain melting. Some people are great at large scenes and running events, personally it can be a challenge for me. It is also faster to drain the mental stamina as well which can be a shame because I want to try to stay sharp enough to continue to contribute.

On table and place posing, I know that it would probably make it harder on Ares in terms of posting the log. Maybe a table doesn’t want their part of the log posted, but I believe in Ares, everything is posted. Which is why it has a pseudo place code where it’s just normal posing, with a header of where that person is situated in the code.

There are also many scenes, at least the ones I am part of, that goes from Live to Async and maybe even back to Live. Mainly because those in the scenes no longer have 4+ hours blocks of time free to just RP. RL interrupts, we need to pause, and the scene is going great to end soon. Does this scene still qualify as Live? Is it now ASync? Does any scene that need to pause at any time lose it’s Live status?

There are too many factors involved for accurate labeling and I believe that the only way for people to tell if the overall pacing of the game is right for them is to just try it out if the theme of the game interests you. Labels can be misleading at times, just because there are more ASync scenes than normal doesn’t mean that players in the game don’t also enjoy Live scenes, it’s just how the scheduling is sometimes. Also, if a player ends up leaving the game, it doesn’t necessarily mean that the player is bad or is at fault, nor does it mean the game is bad or the staff are at fault. Sometimes things just don’t link up, somewhat like potential relationships or jobs.