@Gasboy said in Seven Nations is Closing(Kind Of):

@Testament Better to have tried and failed,

But is it really a failure? @Testament ran a game, had fun for awhile, made stories. Sounds like a success to me. No game lasts forever, and I wish you the best of luck in your future games.

@RedJellyBean said in MU Peeves Thread:

Having a scene with someone and them not posing for days and giving various reasons, yet you know they’re RPing with someone else on another place the entire time, as well as other games.

Just say “hey it looks like you’ve been pretty busy and this scene is getting stale, let’s FTB and you can grab me again when you have more time?” And call it a day.

No sense in letting your brain weasels eat you alive.

@tsar said in Bannings:

tbh I’m amazed at the fortitude anyone has to read Ghost’s giant long posts. I hear them referenced and I go to look because I’m curious and I usually get a couple of lines in and I’m like

“Here’s a well-spoken and well-crafted argument” … proceeds to word vomit across the board nonsensically while skirting along the “very clear” rules in order to attack - but not PERSONALLY!!! attack - people who cannot defend themselves because they are banned.

You know what it would take to repair the community? Nothing. The community isn’t broken, MSB is.

This is kinda like sad and just seems borderline uncomfortable to be talking about this person so can we just not?

I just want to say since it’s apparent that Ghost is reading that it is against the SPIRIT OF THE RULE of the new MSB to continue to personally attack the banned, particularly when they cannot respond directly to those personal attacks.

I’m glad however they found their safe place to apply the rules only to those they dislike and can continue circle jerking about how great and POSITIVE they are while shitting on everyone who cannot defend themselves.

So since this is the second time in extremely recent MSB history that I’ve been either @tted at (despite being banned) or had my quote from here used as an example for how awful BMD is, I’d like to ask:

Derp, how did I hurt you? Is it because I am a woman with opinions, or is it because I called you a misogynist, or is it because of something else? I’d love to know! Pls respond on MSB, xoxoxoxo love me

@crawfish i had to take a shower after reading that, thx

My advice? Teach people how you want to RP with them. A lot of us have a strong tendancy to match the person we are writing with, but sometimes we need to give ourselves a little grace. If someone throws out novel-length poses and you only have a paragraph or two in you? Give them that. They will either a) start mimicing your shorter pose length or b) keep going!

If someone doesn’t want to Rp with you because of your pose length, they aren’t worth RPing with anyway.

@Warma-Sheen said in Concordia Thread:

@Faraday I think that just means allotting a certain number of xp points to character based on age. Or just granting a chunk of xp to an older character to indicate they have had more experience in their life than younger characters. I don’t think it necessitates code. It is definitely a game decision.

The game overall seems interesting enough. I’m not a player of lords and ladies games, so maybe this is a genre thing, but I’m surprised no one has made mention of the fact that characters in the ruling house have to be white with blond hair and blue eyes. There’s a specific mention that all the houses have some commonalities, but this one you have to stick to.

Is that a common thing in these types of games so that no one else is bothered by it? It definitely tripped a flag for me. Or is it one of those situations where people just trust it not to be as icky as it sounds and give the benefit of the doubt?

So, you don’t play L&L games but you have a problem with a game you’re not going to play with a genre you don’t even like? LOL why are you here commenting at all, this isn’t even constructive.

Anyway @Whisky and @spes good luck, have fun, don’t listen to the haters who aren’t going to play your game anyway

I was never warned that saying fuck you was against the law!

@Faraday I do see chatGPT being used a lot now for marketing and “personal branding”. A majority of the stuff I see on LinkedIn is just chatGPT shit anymore. A few business consultants I’ve worked with have suggested using chatGPT to assist with everything from marketing strategies to codes of conduct for employees. So I don’t think it will be too long before they churn a profit off of that market alone.

@Faraday said in AI Megathread:

OpenAI lost 5 billion last year while making only 3.7 billion in revenue. 3.7b is certainly not chump change for us normal folk, but for a megacorp like that it’s pitiful and unsustainable. In contrast, for example, Apple made 95 billion in the fourth quarter alone.

Not to get super nerdy here but it’s not that unusual for a company of that magnitude in early start-up phases to see significant losses, nor is looking at net loss vs gross revenue a great judge of financial performance for start-up companies. I could go into a lot of detail here but this is definitely not the place.

w/ regards to THIS CONVERSATION, it looks like I might be confusing the different AI models but it doesn’t really change the conclusion that the “Machine Learning” AI is just as harmful and will result in significant job losses. It just doesn’t impact our games. Yet, anyway, IDK one day it might.

@Pavel said in AI Megathread:

In your circles. It’s not part of the general zeitgeist, so it’s easily missed or ignored.

I actually can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not. The world of finance and business is not exactly my small little circle here.

@Third-Eye said in AI Megathread:

@MisterBoring said in AI Megathread:

Science AI model releases an open source schematic for a water powered drive system for cars that gets 450 miles to a gallon of water and can drive at freeway speeds. crickets

That’s not driving advertising dollars and making anyone’s money. ChatGPT does…somehow…

Honestly, I see a lot of promise in narrowly-tailored AI designed to wade through data and do pattern-recognition, but that’s not atm a money-maker for anyone.

This is already being done? There are many companies who use AI tools for data sorting and pattern recognition. It came out a few years ago in the public accounting space and is used for “efficiency” - we were forced to utilize these tools after the company I previously worked for dropped hundreds of thousands of dollars in creating it. When I was using it, it was more trouble than it’s worth but it’s definitely a thing.

AI is a big topic right now in business circles, specifically around data sorting. I’m not sure why you think it’s not a money maker? It’s a huge topic of conversation and it is concerning for me in particular as a CPA because eventually AI will be able to do a lot of what I currently do.

ETA because I don’t actually understand the comment. Who is it not a money-maker for anyone to? The people who design the AI and are going to make HEAPS of money implementing it in the businesses they go to? The people who are currently working in data analytics, finance and other data-driven fields who will eventually be replaced by robots? I mean damn near every day I am inundated with Linkedin requests and cold calls trying to peddle their AI-driven accounts payable programs or credit card such-and-such or financial statement reporting programs. My whole executive team was tasked with determining their AI spend for the next year. It’s a huge, big deal that could impact many, many lives.

@MisterBoring now I have to add to my +finger I don’t use LLMs to write my poses sometimes I just suck as a writer thx

I don’t remember the original argument now about BarRP, SocialRP and whatever-else, but if all your game offers in terms of gameplay is for people to sit around and talk about their personal lives, it’s probably not going to last very long. With regards to the L&L genre specifically, it’s why most “popular” games have always offered something else, whether that’s magic or exploration element or something.

I think a lot of people say they want an L&L politics game but the vast majority of players aren’t actually politically savvy, nor would it be very fun in the long run. I can honestly only thing of one person in all of MUSHdom who would absolutely lean into it and be an absolute joy to write stories for, frankly. It’s why all popular L&L games in recent memory have offered something else beyond your standard L&L shit, whether that’s magic or some sort of mystery to investigate or what have you.

The new season of Game Changer just recently released and I haven’t laughed this hard in ages.

If you don’t have a DropoutTV subscription what are you even doing with your lives?! It’s the only streaming service who’s content is getting better and better and better as it goes along.

The idea of one “main” love interest just sounds exhausting for whoever is playing them. Every single person is going to want to be in private scenes with you, and if you are keeping them as an NPC for public events only, I think a lot of people are going to lose interest rapidly. I have a lot of other thoughts but this is the main one, it just sounds like a LOT on a single person and would quickly become Not Fun.

@Third-Eye said in The 3-Month Players:

New game opens. The theme at this point almost doesn’t matter. The appeal of it at this point almost doesn’t matter.

It is mobbed by the same 40+ people, most of whom evaporate in 3 months.

The cycle repeats at the next new game, the XYZ of which almost doesn’t matter.

IMO the bubble seems to largely happen on specific genres of games and my theory is that it happens because 1) it’s the genre people want to play, and 2) there aren’t enough games in that genre to tickle everyone’s fancy. So a game in that genre comes up, 40+ people rush to play (even tho the theme/setting only appeals to 10-15 of them), then slowly but surely those people who aren’t really “all in” on the game trickle off & the game settles into a ‘reasonable’ population. But then the new hotness in the same genre pops up, and the rush happens again, and hey your friends are playing over there and not over here, so you go over there too and by 5 month’s time the first game is dead and the second game is about to lose half of their population because the theme/setting didn’t appeal to them but they want to play in that genre, rinse & repeat etc. etc.

Then you have the OTHER side of it where gamerunners determine a game’s success off “The Bubble” and the natural trickling off of people to settle into a more “reasonable” population makes it seem Unsuccessful, so they give up. Or they burn out. Or they didn’t hook the people they wanted to hook and they don’t really want to Rp with the people who are left so they give up.

I suspect if you had 2-3 high fantasy/pretty princess games and 2-3 modern supernatural games opening up at the same-ish time, you wouldn’t experience that bubble. But IDK, I could be wrong.

@Faraday said in The 3-Month Players:

The main issue IMHO is that many (most?) games open without a clear plan of what players are going to do.

This. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve looked at a game and gone “oh this concept sounds neat, but what will I be able to DO here?” I also can’t tell you how many games I’ve created in my head that sound neat and then @KarmaBum is like OK but what will people RP?

The “What Will People RP” question sticks with me now and is not just the reason why I don’t personally open games, it’s why I don’t join a lot of games anymore. It’s more than just the theme or the meta plot, to me it’s how do you give players the agency to run their own stories and do more than just RP the random karaoke night until I feel fucked to run another plot, if that makes sense.