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  • RE: AI Megathread

    @Gashlycrumb how did you know about the method I used to grade papers when I was a TA?

    posted in No Escape from Reality
  • RE: Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo

    @Lemon-Fox said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

    @dvoraen You could app a character in? 2000 bonus xp right now.

    Oh look, I was waiting for his patented stfu bribe Grid Appeasement Tactic #23 to show up.

    We’re running through the Cujo Conflict Resolution Handbook again, which looks something like this.

    1. Let a bad actor run roughshod.
    2. Insist he’s not involved.
    3. Tell people what they want to hear (zero regard to the truth) so they shut up.
    4. Hey look free XP!

    headscritchessss

    posted in Rough and Rowdy
  • RE: AI Megathread

    @Jumpscare Totally, but don’t let the perfect be the enemy of good.

    posted in No Escape from Reality
  • RE: AI In Poses

    @Warma-Sheen said in AI In Poses:

    @somasatori said in AI In Poses:

    I have a question. What do you get out of MUSHing, a hobby wherein you write paragraphs at people in a turn-based format, when you’re not actually doing the writing? What’s the end goal there?

    I’ve had this conversation with more than a few people and one of the most common themes that came up: an experience as close to tabletop gaming as possible, but without being crapped on because of not being able to put out AP English writing or wait 20 minutes per exchange for all the editing.

    MU*ers can be catty, judgemental, petty, elitist, etc… to a higher degree than any I’ve ever known, probably to do with internet anonymity, which is one of the reasons the hobby continues to grow smaller and smaller. I’ve never known a community so highly motivated/invested in killing itself off as intensely as this one, and I’ve known some pretty shitty communities in my life (I’m old… er now.)

    People show up to MU*s for very different reasons and it sometimes seems like a large number of people assume that everyone else around them is there for the exact same reason as them then get frustrated/confused when they don’t play the way they would.

    I’ve had the conversation on other threads, so I won’t get into it again here if people reply back to tell me all the ways I’m wrong, but taking a tool that improves writing and using it on text based game seems like it would be a godsend to cure many of the ills that people have complained endlessly about for decades - bad writing, lack of storytellers, no interesting plots.

    But to each, their own. People will feel how they feel about it and that’s okay, I guess. Its just sad for me cause I loved this hobby and I really thought this might actually put some life back into it, like CPR. So it was disappointing/sad/whatever when all the villagers pointed at the thing that could bring someone back to life thereby improving the outlook/prosperity of the entire community, called it a witch, and want it burned at the stake.

    ETA: Not for nothing, but to go along with the analogy, some non-small portion of the thread is basically a witch hunt - with dubious degrees of accuracy.

    🙃

    posted in Rough and Rowdy
  • RE: Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo

    @ThisGuy said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

    This includes the page with the connection information on the game.

    How am I gonna get my 2000 xp new character signup bonus now?

    posted in Rough and Rowdy
  • RE: AI In Poses

    Moving over here because I want to be clear this is a MU context

    @Faraday I know you don’t like LLMs including their use in MUSHing, so leaving aside the work/school/academia thing for a moment, let me ask your opinion

    You are running a game. No AI content is allowed, that is the rule and it’s posted.

    Someone who usually writes very distinctively and with many errors suddenly shifts to sounding very same-y, vague, bland, overwhelmingly positive, and somewhat nonsensical with regard to theme, and there’s no more of those human errors. They’re churning out a ton of content that they never used to. You suspect AI. Vibes are off.

    You ask them if they’ve used AI and they say ‘no that’s my writing.’ Which seems super unlikely, but rare is the confronted player who just says “ya got me.”

    What happens next?
    Do you allow this person to continue, even though it seems likely they’re lying and disrespecting the preferences/expectations that you as a host laid out?
    Do you decide if they said “no it’s my writing” then they are simply not lying, despite all the evidence to the contrary?
    Do you ask them to leave the game based on vibes? Based on something else?
    Do you tell them you’re issuing a warning? What happens if they continue to use the Probably ChatGPT text despite the warning?
    Something else?

    I’ve run into this issue with players. I’m not trying to be snotty in tone here, genuinely I want to know what your approach as a game host would be if you suspect LLM use, don’t like LLM use, and someone is (probably) doing it anyway.

    posted in Rough and Rowdy
  • RE: AI Megathread

    @Trashcan said in AI Megathread:

    There were about 6 million auto accidents in 2022. If the self-driving car (extrapolated to the whole population) would have caused 5 million accidents, it would be better.

    Making cities walkable would be far better than throwing more money into the abyss that cities become when they’re overrun by self-driving cars.

    posted in No Escape from Reality
  • RE: AI Megathread

    @Faraday said in AI Megathread:

    IMHO we need structural change.

    Agreed. It’s fundamentally not even really an “AI” problem at its core, but a sort of “humans relying on authorities instead of thinking” problem.

    posted in No Escape from Reality
  • RE: Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo

    @Lemon-Fox said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

    @dvoraen You could app a character in? 2000 bonus xp right now.

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    posted in Rough and Rowdy
  • RE: AI Megathread

    @Faraday said in AI Megathread:

    Until some article points out that semicolons also occur more often in AI-generated work than in the average (non-professional) writing, and you’re right back where you’ve started.

    I don’t like this game anymore.

    posted in No Escape from Reality