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Since we are talking Weird West, how about Weird West but D&D fantasy? This is a really good OSR adventure: Tomb Robbers of the Crystal Frontier

Taking this time to plug my favorite podcast which has an episode on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0GCCgNIKbo

There’s also another recent Weird West setting out there put out by Monte Cook and using the Cypher System, which is Gunslinger Knights. It’s very much “what if The Dark Tower but RPG” but that in itself is a weird west setting.

Roadspike

@KarmaBum If you like FS3, I do happen to have the stats I put together from The Network’s Western series that y’all could use as a starting point.

bear_necessities

@KarmaBum said in Missed Settings:

But not historically accurate cowboys.

More like Wild Imaginary West - https://runefoundry.com/products/wild-imaginary-west-rpg?srsltid=AfmBOooAEp1NVTXF0ZeDBoSmAawCkPK1_tbzkyC8kqVi8MVvUz60WwxQ

@Gashlycrumb this is what I want, make this for me, thank you.

Warma Sheen

@somasatori said in Nwod 2e vs owod:

The lack of metanarrative requires STs and leads to frontload their world-building in order to get the plot started.

I think this is a feature, not a bug. It gives you a vague structure and requires you to run your own game, with your own world and your own story with strong mechanics. If you can’t do that, the game might not be up to par anyway and running something from previous editions will only work well if your players stay on the rails you give them. Once they try something outside of the box, a lackluster ST will lose control of the game quickly.

nWoD gave out so much specific detail that canon became this amalgamation of 542542 different parts of 4924 different books, not all of which agreed with each other, leading to many an argument over which character can be what type of monster and how this player or that player doesn’t know how to play splat x at ALL because they don’t even know about obscure passage X and quoted some obscure passage Y which I don’t know about so they must be making it up or at least really misinterpreting the writers’ intent, which is SO very obvious, so I don’t even want to play with this person who is making a mockery of the game and ruining my own fun if they are around me. Because that’s how differences of opinion work. TLDR:

@somasatori said in Nwod 2e vs owod:

nWoD generally had something for everyone, eventually to its own detriment as time went on.

Separately…

@Pyrephox said in Nwod 2e vs owod:

A couple of places where CoD 2E stumbles:

I think all your examples, even by your own explanations, are of good systems that players and STs use poorly. I don’t think that’s CoD stumbling. I think that is players that are used to playing a certain way refusing to evolve with the game system and continuing to play like they always have in previous versions/editions out of laziness or because that’s what they’re used to, then criticizing the game system for not conforming to their preferences. The explanations of how those things work are great for a storytelling environment, as you say. People’s lack of understanding/willingness to use them properly is their own fault because it is a textbook example of willful ignorance.

Hobbie

@Aria Small update here, the angel cat I’ve been speaking about got into a territorial dispute on my driveway at 2AM today that woke my wife and I up. With it being so early in the morning and noting the pattern of activity, I can now solidly argue that the cat has been abandoned. I’m going to be looking into trapping her for her own good.

Roo

@Floof said in Missed Settings:

Something inspired by the Temeraire series.

Funny thing is, is that I’ve read that the Author admits to have been a regular on PernMUSH back in the 90’s. So would probably be quite OK with a MUSH being made.

somasatori

@KarmaBum WEIRD WEST, HELL YES

Roadspike

@DrQuinn said in Historical Games Round 75:

Like a social contract is great, but also is going to probably ensure that your player base is mostly white.

I think that that depends on what’s in the social contract. Like, if the social contract says that no racism will be allowed onscreen, that’s going to be different than if it says you can only inflict it upon your own character, and that’s going to be different than if it says that racism is baked into the setting but that all characters will strive against it, and that’s going to be different than if the contract doesn’t mention racism at all.

The social contract can be used to set expectations for level of engagement with various pain points – at any level of engagement.

@Tez said in Historical Games Round 75:

Throw them out. Throw them the fuck out.

Agreed 100%. You don’t let the nice Nazis in your bar, or they’ll drive off the non-Nazis and bring your friends, and then you have a Nazi bar.

mietze

@Hobbie yeah that sounds like a nightmare! There’s only so much you can do as a friend, and I think just about everyone would struggle having to deal with that, especially when it is a consistent pattern. Hopefully this will relieve a lot od stress in your life. I hope cutting out people who dont add much to your life but that level of stress ahd disappointment gives you a little more peace!

Hobbie

@mietze First off, thank you for responding like this. I appreciate a differing opinion because I have a hard time assessing a situation from beyond my own viewpoint.

These are the friends where we’ve gone against our gut, given it another five goes, and been optimistic about the future. This, however, is the first time we’ve spent an extended period with them and their kids and it has been very telling.

There were a lot of things I didn’t get into in the last post, it would have been too much and it would have been a wall of text that’s just whinging. There will be some more details below.

@mietze said in Real Life Struggles/Support/Vent:

But yeah, there are a handful of folks where I have been, “You know, I enjoy doing X Y, or Z with you but I think we should do it without the kids,” too.

This is perhaps the core of the whole thing. Sometimes it is better to do things without the kids, but when the kids are there, it is unfair/dangerous to act like they are not. Approximately 90% of the holiday, the mother of those children was interrogating my wife about something or other while the father was on TikTok watching memes. This happened at the holiday house, at kid-friendly events, when we were out to eat, etc etc. It was happening while their baby was hanging out of a high chair held in only by their neck. It was happening in a car park while their oldest kid was walking into traffic. These are the aforementioned “saved from serious harm” incidents that I remember.

Part of my issue is that I consider parenting a 24/7 task, so I cannot turn off my instincts. It doesn’t help my own wellbeing much, but it does mean I’m aware of what the kids are up to even if I’m not actively watching them. To have children around who are visibly not having their emotional, physical, or safety needs met triggers extreme caution in me.

The number of times I turned and found myself next to their infant with them nowhere nearby was approaching double digits. One of those times, they were fifteen metres away arguing over a frozen drink they were going to buy for themselves.

Finally, I will never forgive a parent that scoffs and walks away when their child asks for a kiss and cuddle good-night.

I would never consider them aunty or uncle to my children. After this trip I wouldn’t allow them within fifty metres of my children without me being there.

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