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A while back I posted once about Deep Shadows MUSH; this is a follow-up—we are now ready to start closed beta testing.

This has been a long-running project. The goal from day one has been simple: a Shadowrun 5th Edition MUSH on Evennia that stays as close to the tabletop rules as a persistent, shared world allows—so players can explore the Sixth World beyond a single city, with mechanics that stay consistent between Character Creation, the sheet, and play.

We are not opening the doors to everyone yet. We will bring people in in small waves: testers who want to stress systems, file bugs, and give usable feedback while things are still moving. Solid SR5 knowledge is strongly recommended; we are past “learn the rules from scratch here” territory.

What is in place today

The foundation is playable end-to-end for approved characters:

SR5 Character Creation — In-game priority selection and spend flow: concepts, metatypes, attributes, magic, resonance, qualities, skills, gear, contacts, lifestyles, and related spends (including optional corporation / organization membership where policy allows).
Matrix — Grids, WAN/LAN, hosts, files, jack-in/out, AR/VR flow, overwatch pressure, and matrix actions integrated with characters and gear.
Gear and augmentation — Weapons, armor, cyberware, bioware, nanoware, drones, and vehicles tied into sheets and inventory-style workflows.
Lifestyle and housing — Character Creation lifestyles plus in-world housing: long-term leases, short-term stays, and lifestyle options hooked to buildings and staff/builder tooling.
Identity and economy — SINs / fake SINs, personas, credsticks, with mechanical impact where the game checks identity (for example transit, rent, and secured access).
Advancement — Karma spending after approval with training times and improvement scheduling (+advance; staff paths where needed).
Events and GM tooling — Scheduled events with signups (+events), session logging that can post to forums, and staff queue / application flows for review.
Character systems and sheets — Condition monitors, skills, limits, magic/resonance, augments, contacts, and supporting commands behind +nsheet and related sections.
World infrastructure — Public transit (hubs, routes, tickets), forums (Paxboards) in-game and on the web, staff/builder commands for world data, and a wiki integrated with room content where configured.
Environment — Time and weather commands and room/building patterns aimed at consistent, immersive space.
Who we are looking for

People who want to try archetypes and break edge cases in Character Creation and live play.
Clear bug reports and repro steps, not just “it felt off.”
Mechanics and UX feedback that respects SR5 as the baseline.
Patience with waves, resets, and policy still settling.
If you like SR5, persistent shared RP, and a single continuity that can span multiple cities with few house rules on top of the book, you are probably in the right audience.

How access works

We will admit testers gradually so the game stays stable and feedback actually gets handled.

If you raised your hand in an older thread—thank you. When this phase starts, ping us again so you are on the current list.

Deep Shadows MUSH
One world. Multiple cities. SR5 on Evennia.

Play / connect: https://dsmush.com/play/

Pavel

I’m going to have to lay down more one-line pithy metaphors, just so you all can give me poetry in response.

Aria

@Pyrephox said in Numetal/Retromux:

@somasatori said in Numetal/Retromux:

Someone once told me (paraphrased) that the primary difference between maintaining OOC respect for your fellow players after a PVP/tense situation at a LARP and maintaining OOC respect and kindness towards your fellow MUSHers in the same situation is that MUSHers are not obligated to sit in a booth with each other at IHOP at 2am after we’ve finished our scenes.

Anonymity can be a real motivator in being a serious asshole towards others – which is interesting, because I’m fairly certain we’ve all known each other (or of each other) for the better part of a decade (which is perhaps also what leads to PVP situations).

That said, PVP is a difficult one. On one hand, if you explicitly prohibit PVP in a WoD environment, it takes some of the bite out of inter-sphere relations. On the other hand, allowing for a no-holds-barred environment will make the game – from examples I’ve seen – into a tedious free-for-all. I’m not sure if it’s just my perception based on the people I talk to, but I feel like interest in PVP has dropped off in the last little while.

I used to be in a gaming club in college where a whole lot of people were Mind’s Eye Theatre players. For my money, I’d say there’s not a whole lot of difference in toxicity: lots of vicious personal enmity, gossip, blurring of OOC/IC boundaries, sexual harassment, sexual assault, and cheating. Having to look people in the face afterwards didn’t really seem to help any of it.

Fun Fact: The only time I’ve ever been reduced to literally hiding behind other people in order to get a man twice my age to stop leering at me in a public space was when I was in college, attending a campus Changeling LARP as an OOC observer to see if I wanted to join. He was, supposedly, “just doing what his character would do!” since he was playing a satyr. Again, I was an OOC observer and visibly tagged as such. As far as his ‘character’ was concerned, I didn’t exist. I was 19. He had to be in his 40s. No one seemed to think this was a problem except for me, my then-boyfriend, and the friend I’d gone there with.

So. Y’know. Do with that information what you will.

somasatori

@Pavel / @Gashlycrumb
‘The Michael Jordan of Drunk Driving’ by AJJ

The Michael Jordan of drunk driving played his final game tonight.
Emburdened[sic] by his loneliness,
he wanted to feel alive;
His laziness built the pyramids
and his solitude was a knife.
The Michael Jordan of drunk driving played his final game tonight.

Pavel

@somasatori I dunno, I think it’s a stupid people problem a lot more than it is a power parity problem. Drunk drivers don’t care about the speed limit.

somasatori

The issue is one of power parity and stat comparison in most cases. Werewolf would not have a pvp problem most of the time without Vampire or Mage. Vampire would not have a PVP problem if people stopped playing Vampire. Mage would not have a PVP problem without Vampires and Werewolves. We need to stop making big multi-sphere games.

hellfrog

@Prototart said in Numetal/Retromux:

@Pavel said in Numetal/Retromux:

@hellfrog Mage is also a problem. I don’t hear much about Changeling, but I don’t play much changeling so it’s not really in my echo chamber.

Changeling can be several different kinds of problem. Think Disney adults.

do you feel like they are equal problems

Prototart

@Pavel said in Numetal/Retromux:

@hellfrog Mage is also a problem. I don’t hear much about Changeling, but I don’t play much changeling so it’s not really in my echo chamber.

Changeling can be several different kinds of problem. Think Disney adults.

Pavel

@hellfrog Mage is also a problem. I don’t hear much about Changeling, but I don’t play much changeling so it’s not really in my echo chamber.

To your point, though, I think large-scale antagonisms could well be a large part of the issue. At least in nWoD and CofD (which is a stupid name) the different supernatural groups don’t really care about each other all that much—because there’s no metaplot really.

hellfrog

is it WoD…or is it vampire/werewolf that are the real problem

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