I woke up this morning a wee bit sad as I had to close a tab open to MSB on my phone, and reminded myself:

The forum was never the community. It was just where the community agreed to hang out. It could have been Reddit or Discord or a MUSH but - for a few years - it was the MSB forum.

If WORA was ever a thing, it is here now. The spirit of open, lively debate is here.

What we left behind are admin who admit candidly that they wanted us off their forum, so we are gone.

The people left behind on Derp’s forum are a separate community.

People can decide where they would like to belong. (Except for those of us who were banned but I also think that just reinforces what most of us had already chosen.)

I am happy to be part of this community. 🥰

@GF said in Bannings:

At some point, it has to become a vibes-based decision.

Honestly? At every point. Even looking down the barrel of logs and screenshots, you’re still gonna have to make a decision based on your instincts.

I’m not sure people grasp how much even the most flippant of us wind up agonizing over these decisions sometimes. “I don’t want to make a big deal out of this” is probably the most common phrase people say to me when they want to put someone on my radar, and that’s sort of a sad state of affairs. Even on GH, which was a hot mess, we only ever got a handful of actual complaints about behavior from people; most people who are getting harassed just leave rather than go through the whole process of reporting someone.

The only false report I’ve ever gotten on any game, to my knowledge, was from Ruiz. Who went right for the throat with a job to complain about the person it turned out she was harassing. Neither player got banned over it, though the other player eventually quit.

^ See above re: wrong way on a decision before. I should’ve banned Ruiz right then (or at least shortly afterward when her creepiness started to twig @bear_necessities), but no one had receipts and it felt somehow wrong to ban someone just because my co-admin thought they were creepy.

Which is just the dumbest rationale I’ve ever used, and it embarrasses me to this day.

tl;dr - be a good admin and swing the ban-hammer freely till you achieve the desired PEACE & QUIET

I forgot this thread was here. I stand by my “let Derp’s forum lie” mentality, but also…

Derp has been completely honest about why certain bans were lifted and others weren’t: He doesn’t like us.

Which is completely fair. I don’t like him, either.
When he was made admin, I had every intention of just bouncing. But I realize now that I fucking care about this community, and he doesn’t, so I’m glad I came back.

I don’t expect to ever be unbanned there. Derp can’t handle people speaking truth to him, especially women.

The community that was WORA - that Arkandel handed over to Ganymede - isn’t fractured. It’s right fucking here.

WORA has never been an immutable line in the sand. It’s always a party that’s popped up at someone’s house 'cause their parents were out of town.

When Nymeria threatened copyright infringement and we had to flee off Proboards (or whatever that was), the community moved to a new location. This is the same thing: Ganymede torched our old neighborhood and gave the keys to Derp, so we just moved on.

It’s really hard to explain how much of this is because… honestly… Derp is such a mansplainy little turd, that it is hard to swallow that he “wins.” He and Ganymede essentially have the keys to our shared history. And it hurts to think of losing that (for the 4th time?) because of this narrow-minded little man who doesn’t have the common decency to yield to the will of the community he was supposed to be entrusted to oversee.

Derp should have done the right thing and stepped aside when it became obvious how upset so many of us were.

Ganymede should have done the right thing and asked him to step aside when it became obvious how upset so many of us were.

The misplaced trust in Ganymede over the years compiled by the smug crowing imagined in the background by that tiresome manchild…

It still stings.

So that’s why I’m still reading, even though I know I shouldn’t. I’ll grow out of it soon.

They won’t.

@Warma-Sheen said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

@Pavel said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

I understand the ‘must have proof’ mindset, though. Sometimes (rarely, but still) bitches do lie. After all, this board was founded after people were falsely accused of something and punished without any sort of transparent investigation.

Yep.

Sometimes people lie.

Please show me the receipts where people have lied about being harassed. If this is such a prevalent problem, you should have no trouble producing them.

We lost our CKCS recently. So now we have 1 & 1/4 Boston Terriers.

@Cobalt lordy, just when it feels like it can’t go any lower

Just from my own past experience? Don’t give away your DB. Don’t let someone take it over. We did that with GH, and I regret that decision big-time. Stuff only got worse, and - even though I publicly walked away - there’s still a sense of responsibility. And people who still think I was responsible for shit that I had no control over.

If they love it so much, let them make an homage.

LOLOL and Gany banned us all to protect this nasty weirdo

this hobby, man

@Cobalt just jumping on the bandwagon.

Derp’s knee-jerk assumption was that YOU are the bad actor in this scenario, and everyone agreed - right up until you walked into the room, when suddenly they realized they weren’t just talking about someone who couldn’t defend themselves. Then Ghost and Macha did their frantic back-pedaling, and Derp of course ignored the fire he just started.

They’re not there for discussion. They have BANNED everyone who actually wants to discuss things.

This thread is here in all fun, because getting banned from MSB is still ridiculous to so many of us.

But it has ultimately turned out to be a positive. Clearly, we’re lurking there to see how this all shakes out - and hi to those lurking here in return. It’s sad to lose a piece of our collective history, but it’s not the first time, and it probably won’t be the last.

We aired many grievances in Discord over the past two-ish weeks, but we also started putting our heads together constructively. Several new games are in development, people took (happy and sometimes snarky) walks down memory lane, and this forum came together very quickly as a testament to the willingness of the community to band together.

It’s unfortunate that it took a common enemy to shake us from our complacency, but I just wanted to say that I’m glad that our response was to pick up the pieces and start again.

That’s the community I have enjoyed and am glad to continue enjoying.

Now I am going to block all you people and all the Arx threads and get back to business.

@Coin You’re right, and I apologize for that. I’m not gonna edit the post, 'cause seems like an even worse look, but you’re right to call me on it. I did exactly the thing I was complaining about.

@Roz said in MU Peeves Thread:

Just gonna say it: Warma might be a pain in the butt, but if almost anyone else had been the first…

Oh, no question about it. I absolutely jumped on it. But it’s not like this is an isolated incident.

He’s spewing bullshit about people I consider friends, in a thread about a game he doesn’t intend to play.
After he spewed bullshit about people I consider friends, in a thread about a game where he quit at one point then returned to without so much as acknowledging or apologizing for what a fucking weirdo he was.
While spewing bullshit about people I consider friends, in a thread about a game where he actually does play (shocker) while defending someone I know first-hand is lying about me.

As soon as he stops making up shit and posting it here as cold-hard-facts, I’ll get off his “jock,” as he put it.

@Tez said in MU Peeves Thread:

Just saying TY to @KarmaBum for moving the brawl into the Rough and Rowdy peeves thread like a true hero instead of keeping it in the game gab concordia thread.

Okay, that’s it, HAVE AT.

omg i feel so noticed

but also I appreciate what y’all do up in here to try and keep things fair and level.

@Warma-Sheen said in MU Peeves Thread:

BTW, in case you missed it, my thoughts on 2043 winding down were fairly accurate and confirmed by the Director’s player shortly after, so feel free to acknowledge that. Or not.

Where did this happen? Please show me.

Because this is exactly what my problem with you is. You do not have your finger on the pulse of anything, but you post with this “I know what’s up” mentality.

I talk to this person every single day. I am pretty sure you do not. And your theory about why he closed the game (lack of support) is wrong. He posted in and told you it was wrong - which, after what a PITA you were on LA, is more than you deserve - and you still read it as you being right.

Plus, you’re jumping to the defense of someone I know for sure is telling lies about me and why I banned her.

So yes. I got beef with you.

There’s probably more in your post to respond to, but this is the meat of it.

@Warma-Sheen said in Concordia Thread:

@KarmaBum said in Concordia: A Lord & Ladies Ares Game:

No, you didn’t. You made a side-handed, presumptive comment rather than address the concern or bring up a question.

I didn’t think I needed to pass it through a UN speechwriter. Sorry not sorry that it didn’t pass your standards. I’m not sure why you’re on my jock so much and feel the need to make snide comments wherever I post, but I meant what I wrote and I meant what I asked.

As others have mentioned, they noticed too. I didn’t even question the policy. Its their game and they can do what they want. I was glad for the clarification though. Apparently, others were too.

My point was that I was surprised that no one else had brought up something that was very noticeable to me and asked was that something that was just common in the genre.

Because it’s not the first time you’ve busted into a thread, made some hamfisted comment where you don’t know wtf you’re talking about.

https://brandmuday.mythicus.net/post/16851

Or even the first time today.

https://brandmuday.mythicus.net/post/16997

Cool. Since you’re here, @inuki, and being so transparent - can we talk about why you lied about why you got banned?

https://brandmuday.mythicus.net/post/16221

Since you’re so very honest and never lie or tell people it was because you flirted with the wrong person and not because you were being gross and racist.

@inuki was a nightmare of a player who didn’t seem to actually read anything, made up entire narratives that didn’t exist, and sex-pested multiple people. To the point that I found out more people had been harassed by her.

@jenn was immediately cooperative and proactive, asked questions so she could understand things, and has no complaints to date against her.

The problem Inuki has isn’t that Jenn is a big, time-stealing problem-player.

The problem is that Jenn was playing a female PC.

@Warma-Sheen said in Concordia: A Lord & Ladies Ares Game:

Obviously, there was x > zero people who noticed it. So I asked questions. Big deal.

No, you didn’t. You made a side-handed, presumptive comment rather than address the concern or bring up a question.

“I’m surprised @Tez hasn’t forked this yet” ≠ “Can you please fork this, Tez?”

Only, mine was less passive-aggressive.

@Warma-Sheen said in Concordia: A Lord & Ladies Ares Game:

I’m surprised no one has made mention of the fact that characters in the ruling house have to be white with blond hair and blue eyes

Thanks for getting that out of the way for all zero people who were hung up about it.

@tsar said in Los Angeles 2043: A Blade Runner MUSH - Discussion:

crushed all these people’s hopes and dreams of stories

Yeah. It’s some FOMO. But nobody owes anyone a good time.

I had a blast here. This was some of the best RP, in some of the most badass and unique scenarios, with some of the most collaborative writers I’ve met in this hobby.

I have no regrets and no disappointment. All I had was fun, from start to finish.