AI PBs

Faraday

You are paying for everything being above board. If the corporation is pulling funny business, then that’s on them (and Disney’s lawyers will undoubtedly made them pay).

That’s just not accurate. Tools like Midjourney provide absolutely no claims that they have the rights to the materials used in their training data or that the images they generate are safe from copyright or trademark infringement claims. Mainly because they don’t. That’s why there are eleventy billion lawsuits against GenAI companies from artists, authors, publishers, and more.

And EVEN IF the law concludes that training these GenAI systems on copyrighted material is fair use (which is still very much up in the air), that still doesn’t protect you if something you generate with them infringes on someone else’s copyrights or trademarks.

I can ask GenAI to make me an image of a golden space robot and slap it on a T-Shirt to sell, but that’s not going to save me from a DMCA takedown or lawsuit once Disney sees that it’s the spitting image of C-3PO.

@Third-Eye said in AI PBs:

Anyway, if this was going to go anywhere in terms of litigation it would’ve come up in the 2000s when fan fiction and websites that did ‘dream casting’ for movies were just becoming things.

That’s what I was alluding to when I mentioned fancasts/faceclaims not being unique to MUSHes. Like fanfic/fanart, there are certainly those who take issue with them. And like fanfic/fanart, they exist on shaky copyright ground, relying mainly on the good graces of the creators.

Even so, there never has been anywhere near the widespread outcry from creatives over these things than there has with GenAI. If you have a personal problem with them, that’s totally fine! But thinking that GenAI is better than fancasting because it somehow harms creatives less feels like it’s almost willfully ignoring what creatives themselves are saying.

dvoraen

@Pavel said in AI PBs:

Speaking of litigation, who do I speak to about suing for the whiplash I got as those goalposts fuckin’ rocketed past?

I just want you to ask ChatGPT and all the other LLMs this exact question, with this exact wording.

MisterBoring

If you need more proof that generative AI is super bad, take some advice from one of it’s initial investors:

https://futurism.com/openai-investor-chatgpt-mental-health

IT WILL DRIVE YOU INSANE.

Warma Sheen

@MisterBoring Technological Darwinism.

Pavel

So AI isn’t so much coming for my job as it is creating more work for my colleagues. I see.

Gashlycrumb

@MisterBoring said in AI PBs:

Are there any other options that might represent a truly ethical source of PB art?

My tabletop players have made HeroForge minis of their PCs. Not actually downloaded them or had them 3d printed or anything, just screenshots of the miniature online. So, it’s free, and I don’t think anybody minds. Mind you they do sometimes buy stuff from HeroForge, too.

ProperPenguin

@Gashlycrumb said in AI PBs:

@MisterBoring said in AI PBs:

Are there any other options that might represent a truly ethical source of PB art?

My tabletop players have made HeroForge minis of their PCs. Not actually downloaded them or had them 3d printed or anything, just screenshots of the miniature online. So, it’s free, and I don’t think anybody minds. Mind you they do sometimes buy stuff from HeroForge, too.

I have also seen people use things like BG3 and Cyberpunk’s character creators in a similar fashion for VTT.
(And it’s becoming more common for games to release character creators for free in advance of the game’s release.)

MisterBoring

I’ve actually been looking at using Unreal Engine’s Metahuman Creator to make PBs, but my abilities in that engine are… awful.

Wizz

@Pavel said in AI PBs:

So AI isn’t so much coming for my job as it is creating more work for my colleagues. I see.

here’s another article about it more generally. I find it kind of funny but also deeply sad considering that these are probably just…what, undiagnosed narcissists who have badly needed intervention for years? and now they’ve got Fancy Autocorrect endlessly validating them into psychosis.

MisterBoring

@Wizz There’s a dark part of my psyche that hopes it leads one of them to this:

a man is sitting in a theater eating popcorn and smiling

Pavel

@Wizz Yeah, I was being a bit flippant, but some colleagues of mine have already reported (anecdotally, their study is as-yet unpublished) an increase in cases of delusion being “fed” by hallucinating LLMs supposedly confirming cases of unreality.

Alas, most research I’ve seen thus far has been on clinical applications of LLMs rather than their clinical impact.