MU Peeves Thread

[junipersky]

@helvetica

I loved being an adult parent to adult children. Multiple people played Adalyn to Norwood and I enjoyed them all.

[Third Eye]

I’m having a Rough Time with the amount of obvious, unedited ChatGPT garbage out there in our corner of the roleplaying world.

[Pavel]

@Third-Eye I wonder how long it’ll be before staff start requiring people defend their applications like one does with a dissertation, just to weed out those who wrote their backgrounds with an LLM.

[Kestrel]

@Pavel said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Third-Eye I wonder how long it’ll be before staff start requiring people defend their applications like one does with a dissertation, just to weed out those who wrote their backgrounds with an LLM.

There are apps that can detect with relative accuracy whether something is AI-written or not.

And I am completely 100% in favour of outright banning all use of AI-generated art and LLMs on any game.

[Pavel]

@Kestrel said in MU Peeves Thread:

There are apps that can detect with relative accuracy whether something is AI-written or not.

I am aware. They’re often crap.

[DrQuinn]

@Pavel Yeah they don’t work. I think it’s still relatively easy to spot something that was written by an AI, but there’s no definitive way to really prove it, which sucks when you know a student did it but there’s no way to call them on it.

[Jennkryst]

Just remember some of us write purple prose that is so terrible, that you might mix it up with ChatGPT, or maybe think it’s even worse. This is not a ‘so let them use it instead of being trash’ … this is a ‘don’t ban my hot mess, I worked hard on it!’

[Jumpscare]

I can typically identify descs written by AI by how they’re surprisingly un-specific to the reality of what they’re supposed to be describing.

Yes, her eyes may harken back to bygone timeless memories hidden within pools of mystery, but what color are they?

[Jennkryst]

@Jumpscare said in MU Peeves Thread:

I can typically identify descs written by AI by how they’re surprisingly un-specific to the reality of what they’re supposed to be describing.

Yes, her eyes may harken back to bygone timeless memories hidden within pools of mystery, but what color are they?

The color that gets the most TS, of course!

[Pavel]

@DrQuinn said in MU Peeves Thread:

which sucks when you know a student did it but there’s no way to call them on it.

Get them to write a 500 word reflective statement on the essay they submitted.

[Warma Sheen]

@Pavel said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Third-Eye I wonder how long it’ll be before staff start requiring people defend their applications like one does with a dissertation, just to weed out those who wrote their backgrounds with an LLM.

This is what they get for still having people write out backgrounds that will never again have relevance once the app is approved.

[Juniper]

@Jumpscare Descriptions are supposed to convey as much information as possible with as few words as possible.

ChatGPT fills as many words as possible with as little information as possible.

[Kestrel]

@Warma-Sheen said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Pavel said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Third-Eye I wonder how long it’ll be before staff start requiring people defend their applications like one does with a dissertation, just to weed out those who wrote their backgrounds with an LLM.

This is what they get for still having people write out backgrounds that will never again have relevance once the app is approved.

Said it before and people totally misunderstood my stance as defending AI — I’m not:

The stuff that people commonly replace with AI these days, the drudgery that no one wants to write and no one wants to read (typically descs, filler text) is stuff we should just culturally outgrow as a hobby.

[bear_necessities]

@Jumpscare said in MU Peeves Thread:

Yes, her eyes may harken back to bygone timeless memories hidden within pools of mystery, but what color are they?

IDK about you but eyes harken back to bygone timeless memories isn’t an automatic AI flag to me. I’ve seen descs like this since the late 90s?

[KarmaBum]

@Kestrel I read everyone’s desc. I like reading them. Writing them can be a challenge sometimes, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing.

If we don’t keep challenging ourselves as writers and creators, we’re going to wind up RPing nothing but Movie Nights and Karaoke, linking to images of our outfits instead of actually (wait for it) describing anything.

Rabble rabble kids these days.

[Kestrel]

@KarmaBum said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Kestrel I read everyone’s desc. I like reading them. Writing them can be a challenge sometimes, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing.

If we don’t keep challenging ourselves as writers and creators, we’re going to wind up RPing nothing but Movie Nights and Karaoke, linking to images of our outfits instead of actually (wait for it) describing anything.

Rabble rabble kids these days.

I don’t think we shouldn’t describe stuff. I just think we should only describe stuff that matters, when it matters.

It’s the Chekhov’s Gun principle. If it’s not going to go off in the second act, it doesn’t need a paragraph describing it in the first.

There are games where you’re encouraged to write a paragraph describing every garment your character owns, ever object in a room, every body part, etc. For me, “a white T-shirt”, “a mahogany desk” is sufficient. And if your character’s a musician then it’s relevant that they have “pianist’s fingers”, if they’re a lumberjack it’s relevant that they’re callused, but otherwise I don’t care about their hands.

I have never and will never use ChatGPT to do my writing for me. But the stuff I see people using it for is almost always stuff they feel obligated to write that actually didn’t need to be written at all.

I would rather (can, and do) write 3 paragraphs describing something in the space of 10 minutes, during a scene, when it’s relevant setting — than 1 paragraph prep work with unlimited time. It’s drudgery that saps my motivation to play. Maybe it’s my ADHD but honestly don’t think I’m the only one.