Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo
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@Tourniquet said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
he was the same cat 20 years ago that he is now
Unrelated to the topic at hand, but can we bring this kind of phrasing back, please?
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Thanks for your comments: I play there, and I think, so far, I haven’t outed myself, but I’ve always heard about this sort of thing and said, ‘Don’t get involved, won’t involve me.’ Hearing about players getting shitted on on a staff chat, though, one of those things I knew had been happening, but as long as I didn’t know it was happening, I could surf along. But now my paranoia is kicking in and considering my alt, and the profession/businesses she has, well - I just got a lot more paranoid.
I started playing there just before the inciting event for this thread, even got to play with Hex and company, and it was great. But every time I see a group of people arrive, and start to play with them, a month or two down the road, here we go again.
And no, havne’t even tried to play with Sumi and Company, because even I knew better.
But considering what you are saying, even I am beginning to wonder if it’s worth keeping the chars there. Not that I have been getting loads of RP since the last batch of people came and went.
Once agian, thanks for speaking up!
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Why oh why, can’t we have a quality SW MUSH run by adults…
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@MisterBoring I was thinking the same thing, because all this rotten shit from AoA reminds me so much of what Lib truly is, but far more disturbingly, I’m reminded of the ways players gaslight themselves into staying there and trying to learn how to tolerate abuse and neglect, thus enabling more of both. One by one folks I warned and even gave a roadmap to how they’ll be eaten up if they stayed on Lib, would months or now years later come to me and say, “You were right.”
But it’s not that I’m right, it’s that successful abusers have a process and patterns. Once you learn to identify that, you can more confidently stand up for yourself and stop enabling the abuse, which usually includes the step of severing yourself from the place(s) where they abuse you.
Sometimes people choose to create their community and self-identify in abuse because it’s familiar and they feel in their element, to the point of becoming abusers themselves in the absence of outside abuse. Peace and love to those stuck in the cycle, but I truly hope they can summon the grit to face terror they feel towards having to change who they are, because who they let themselves remain until that happens is truly heartbreaking (and also possibly dangerous).
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If there was a realistic option for a Star Wars MUSH, that had even half the grid that AoA has, I doubt I would stay there for long - other than keeping an alt there for communication reasons for people that might pop in only ever so often.
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@Roo said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
even got to play with Hex and company, and it was great.
Aw, haha. I was a casualty of Cujo’s spree when all this went down (whole crew got banned), but if you had good experiences with us I’m very glad for that. The game is unfortunately not a good place to be, though.
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Was chatting with a friend who used to play on AoA and said something that is both funny and yet sad at the same time.
“What a world we live in, when the staff of a s*xMUSH are far more competent and reasonable than on AoA.”
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Since a lot of people asked: Because it is a fun place to play. It was more fun when I had more friends there, but it’s not like there’s a ton of really active places to peddle my unique brand of lazy socializing. Usually when a game gets mentioned as an alternative, I log on to find 4-8 people there.
I like big games like AoA and Arx, where there are people of all sorts about at 1am. I was miffed about Cujo because I tried to actively reach out to him and interact. Him being weird doesn’t make the game unplayable.
But, that said, I don’t think I’ve seriously played since September. I just keep hoping the spark will reappear, and if it doesn’t, whatever.
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@Lemon-Fox said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
Him being weird doesn’t make the game unplayable.
staffers doing stuff like what’s in this thread should absolutely make a game unplayable lol
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@Roz said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@Lemon-Fox said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
Him being weird doesn’t make the game unplayable.
staffers doing stuff like what’s in this thread should absolutely make a game unplayable lol
I guess I have a very different definition of ‘weird’. Weird to me is like, occasionally spouting off ‘i has sporkz’ randomness.
Being a sex pest, supporting/sheltering sex pests, and all the various levels of harassment that have been described in this thread is not ‘weird’ it’s abuse.
But, there is the statistic where it takes someone about 7 times/tries before they leave their abuser.
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Okay. So, give me a place to play. Somewhere fairly busy, without draconian standards of what you can or cannot pose, where I can be a socialite without running scenes or getting anything approved.
Do you have that?
Because weirdly enough, I don’t get harassed on AoA. Every time someone got a little too weird, I’ve asked them to stop and they did. Twice, before you ask. And I’ve never had someone go out of their way to make my life miserable, which did happen on Arx and a couple superhero MUs.
When I say I can just ignore Cujo and little changes for my gaming experience, I mean it. So what do you want me to do, exactly? Quit to make a pointless statement?
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@Lemon-Fox my point wasn’t really about what you have personally experienced directly. just that, as catzilla pointed out, all of the stuff in this thread would constitute a bit more than “weird.” and, yeah, the common wisdom in the hobby is to not play on games where you fundamentally can’t trust the staffers to staff ethically and fairly.
if other people on a game i was on were getting sexually harassed by staff, or by other players and staff was covering it up/allowing it, i’d have to backflip outta there whether or not it was happening to me, because that’s fkn gross. even if i didn’t have any other games i was interested in. i’d go read a book or something or do anything else if i didn’t have a MU i wanted to play on. which you don’t have to do, but you probably shouldn’t also downplay the bad stuff going on at the same time.
and yeah, people are gonna have opinions if you roll in and announce “i acknowledge that really shitty behavior is being done by the people running this game, but it’s not being done to me, so…” that’s just how it goes.
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@Lemon-Fox said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
Quit to make a pointless statement?
what’s pointless about it?
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@Lemon-Fox said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
Okay. So, give me a place to play. Somewhere fairly busy, without draconian standards of what you can or cannot pose, where I can be a socialite without running scenes or getting anything approved.
We have very, very different tastes, you and I, I sense, so I am of no help to you here, but I am curious what games you tried that had these unacceptable things.
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@Lemon-Fox If your friend/RP group on AoA have fun together and they also know that the staff are predators/psychos, it’s easier for you guys to find a new game to play on that doesn’t have toxic waste of a staff base. New Ares games are popping up, there are still existing ones that have been running for a while.
If you move with your friends, it may be easier to ease into a new game since you already have people to play with instead of having to put feelers out for newfriends which could take time. It may take a little bit of shopping around before finding a new comfy place to settle down with but I would say that it’s worth it.
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@Lemon-Fox said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
Okay. So, give me a place to play. Somewhere fairly busy, without draconian standards of what you can or cannot pose, where I can be a socialite without running scenes or getting anything approved.
Recent events in the world has made me want to do things taking out Space Nazis, so Star Wars has weaseled its way back into my top 5. Will it stay and how long? Whomst can say.
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i think the stupidest part of all this is to post and be like ‘yeah, i acknowledge the game has problems, but i’m gonna still play’.
at that point, like, lol, just stay quiet? don’t say anything. there was no reason to make an announcement.
and you’ve kinda double-shot yourself in the foot by making the announcement if you do end up running into issues where sex-pests/creepers/three dicks in a trenchcoat ruin your funtime on this game and then you have to quit for real. cause like, how are you going to come back here and get sympathy then?
i guess you don’t HAVE to do that if that happens, but, yknow. you could have just not posted that you were going to stay.
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@MisterBoring
“I know it’s crooked but it’s the only game in town.”Some folks are legit institutionalized. Speaking of my personal journey, internalizing the reality that I don’t have to MUSH or RP changed my life for the better. I don’t have to pick the least painful version of always-painful options, I can just do other things for a while, maybe for good; things that bring joy without compromise.
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@Lemon-Fox said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
Okay. So, give me a place to play. Somewhere fairly busy, without draconian standards of what you can or cannot pose, where I can be a socialite without running scenes or getting anything approved.
Do you have that?
Because weirdly enough, I don’t get harassed on AoA. Every time someone got a little too weird, I’ve asked them to stop and they did. Twice, before you ask. And I’ve never had someone go out of their way to make my life miserable, which did happen on Arx and a couple superhero MUs.
When I say I can just ignore Cujo and little changes for my gaming experience, I mean it. So what do you want me to do, exactly? Quit to make a pointless statement?
This is reminding me of those wives on Tiktok that complain about their terrible husbands.
“Sure, my husband let my kids sit in filth and didn’t tidy up the house at all when I went away for the weekend and also destroyed all my makeup when they were mad a few times… BUT YOU CAN’T JUDGE OUR LIFE FROM 30 SECONDS ON TIKTOK!” Then defend their terrible spouse like their life depends on it.
Just make your own game with your friends who aren’t sex pests or abuse enablers and have fun with that.
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@catzilla like the wife who asked her husband to pack her work lunch and he gave her his chipotle leftovers and a BAG OF DOG FOOD like
