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    • TezT
      Tez Administrators
      last edited by

      Or, on the other hand, everyone’s a victim here.

      Macha’s a victim of Ruiz.

      Ruiz is a victim of Macha.

      Cobalt’s a victim of a pit of scorpions.

      she/they

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      • hellfrogH
        hellfrog @bear_necessities
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        @bear_necessities it happens so often, people like this are drawn to each other because what’s a red flag? What’s a boundary?

        And then the inevitable drama quagmire lands in some poor staffer’s lap.

        fr fr
        (she/her)

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        • BloodAngelB
          BloodAngel
          last edited by

          It's a twist

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          • juniperskyJ
            junipersky Administrators
            last edited by

            Hi. I’ve been one of Ruiz-player’s casualties. My topic interactions with them are a big reason I pulled back from all rp eventually.

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            • BloodAngelB
              BloodAngel @junipersky
              last edited by

              @junipersky sorry to hear that. sad

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              • L. B. HeuschkelL
                L. B. Heuschkel
                last edited by

                https://thepack.aresmush.com/char/Isaac
                https://harvestmoons.aresmush.com/char/Elijah

                Looks familiar.

                Any pronouns. Come to Chincoteague. We have ponies. http://keys.aresmush.com

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                • BloodAngelB
                  BloodAngel @L. B. Heuschkel
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                  @L-B-Heuschkel said in Ruiz Thread:

                  ac
                  https://harvestmoons.aresmush.com/char/

                  one of these is not

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                  • R
                    RightMeow
                    last edited by

                    This just makes me sigh.

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                    • WuffW
                      Wuff @bear_necessities
                      last edited by

                      @bear_necessities said in Ruiz Thread:

                      If this person is Ruiz then I feel even less comfortable with painting him as a victim because this is precisely his MO. We can hate on Macha without turning the other person into a victim - in fact, it is hilarious to me that these two crazy people found each other to be crazy at.

                      let them

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                      • C
                        CuriousGamer @Wuff
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                        @Wuff b4928bab-69a2-4344-ab30-0963a0b116c7-image.png

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                        • WuffW
                          Wuff @CuriousGamer
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                          @CuriousGamer archer slapfight

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                          • CobaltC
                            Cobalt
                            last edited by

                            So, I’m not going to set any “record straight”. But here is my experience with Isaac/Character X.

                            When they apped onto the pack a couple of my friends (Hexe, Coin) reached out and said “hey heads up this looks like someone who has a habit of harem building and gaslighting and stalking”.

                            I said “ok, I’ll keep an eye on it”.

                            Then Isaac put in a request, without speaking to her, to be attached to Darling’s build. Darling expressed discomfort and that she had a history with the player and did not want them to be connected to her build since Isaac had not reached out first.

                            I sat Isaac down and had a conversation with them, saying: Hey, you have a reputation that is not good and you did a shady thing. You’re not being asked to leave or banned right now, but I want you to be aware I know of your reputation and want to know why you did this shady thing.

                            Isaac said they thought since Darling had been willing to speak with them OOC and RP in a scene Isaac was in that they thought it meant they could establish communication again and be friends once more.

                            I said, nah. Don’t do that again.

                            And from there I did not see actual proof of harem building other than having private scenes with different people, but at least with Machakenzie they were OOCly clear about not wanting to be exclusive with her character.

                            Refusing to post logs is sus. But that was the only proof I had. So maybe they changed? Or maybe they were just behaving because I made it known I knew about their past behavior.

                            Cobalt@Under the Stars
                            cob.alt@Discord
                            Cobalt#3811@mas.to

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                            • bear_necessitiesB
                              bear_necessities @Cobalt
                              last edited by

                              @Cobalt is Darling hexe? I ask because that’s extremely disgusting that they would ask that knowing the history between them.

                              I read the logs. They haven’t changed. The fact that they asked you to come here to remotely defend them tells me that.

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                              • CobaltC
                                Cobalt @bear_necessities
                                last edited by

                                @bear_necessities I really don’t want to say yes or no, because I do not have permission from Darling’s player to out her Ares handle.

                                Cobalt@Under the Stars
                                cob.alt@Discord
                                Cobalt#3811@mas.to

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                                • PavelP
                                  Pavel @Cobalt
                                  last edited by

                                  @Cobalt said in Ruiz Thread:

                                  @bear_necessities I really don’t want to say yes or no, because I do not have permission from Darling’s player to out her Ares handle.

                                  Though that information is still publicly available on Ares Central.

                                  He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.
                                  BE AN ADULT

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                                  • RozR
                                    Roz
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                                    Yeah I mean, it’s on the The Pack’s website, if someone’s linked their handle to a character I’d say that generally means they’re consciously making it public.

                                    she/her | playlist

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                                    • bear_necessitiesB
                                      bear_necessities @Cobalt
                                      last edited by

                                      @Cobalt ok but you outted who she was and a two second search showed me her ares handle but OK.

                                      I’ll give you my story of Ruiz: Ruiz followed us to gray harbor from calaveras where they had hooked up to extremely problematic people. They were engaged in a gm scene with myself and Kb where they started to flip their shit when they didn’t get to kill the bad guy on their terms single-handedly. At that time I was going to ban them but didn’t. Maybe a month later, they came to us about a player who I believe was Hexe. They told us that they wanted to get ahead of some “ic” drama that bled ooc. That player reported Ruiz shortly thereafter for harassment and gaslighting.

                                      I should have banned Ruiz earlier. Instead I gave them the benefit of the doubt because beyond that one GM scene? They seemed fine. Good RPer, involved in plot. I told Ruiz and this other player to leave each other alone. I deeply regret my decision.

                                      When I found out Ruiz was gaslighting, stalking and harem building players after I left GH, I knew I had fucked up. Ruiz also tried to convince me and KB that they weren’t the bad guy, they never did anything!!! Etc. They are very good at manipulating people and not being seen enough to get away with it.

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                                      • PavelP
                                        Pavel @bear_necessities
                                        last edited by

                                        @bear_necessities said in Ruiz Thread:

                                        ok but you outted who she was and a two second search showed me her ares handle but OK.

                                        She’s covering her ass, totally understandable given the circumstances.

                                        He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.
                                        BE AN ADULT

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                                        • CobaltC
                                          Cobalt @Pavel
                                          last edited by Cobalt

                                          @Pavel said in Ruiz Thread:

                                          @Cobalt said in Ruiz Thread:

                                          @bear_necessities I really don’t want to say yes or no, because I do not have permission from Darling’s player to out her Ares handle.

                                          Though that information is still publicly available on Ares Central.

                                          Shit, I didn’t realize she had linked her handle. I’m not covering my ass, you jerk. 😘

                                          I consider Hexe my friend and I honestly did not realize she had linked her handle, or I would have edited her character name.

                                          @bear_necessities Yikes. Thank you for the background, I’ll add their IP to the list of pre banned from my next project. Hexe had explained some of it to me but I just didn’t listen well enough.

                                          Cobalt@Under the Stars
                                          cob.alt@Discord
                                          Cobalt#3811@mas.to

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                                            Pyrephox Administrators @Cobalt
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                                            @Cobalt For the record, as far as I can tell, the reason why that player refuses to post logs is because they do not want a record of their IC actions in one-on-one scenes that people can verify against their OOC words. It’s not just sus, it’s a tool that they have used in multiple places to enable the harassment of other players.

                                            I played with that player, and enjoyed a lot of scenes with them, but so far, everything is textbook about their maladaptive behaviors. They haven’t changed.

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