Ruiz Thread

CuriousGamer

@bear_necessities If every scene that someone is in can’t be shared - then there’s probably something wrong.

I didn’t read the logs fully. I found them cringey enough just briefly skimming through them to know - this is not the kind of thing I want to read.

Without actual PM threads, ooc’s, we don’t know the full story. But then again - do we really need to? We know that Macha is a person toxic af, holds grudges decades long, has no desire to change and has in fact only gotten worse, and may or may not be JK Rowling. For those blind enough to not look at the pattern of behavior then hey. Good for them. Go meet a new friend.

I don’t know anything at all about Ruiz. I don’t think I’ve ever encountered them in the wild.

I guess in this instance - it boils down to the gamerunner (cobalt) made a decision that was right for her, and for her game. Macha will try to use semantics, technicals, etc to argue points. This person was banned over this person, but why? But it also comes down to Cobalt made a judgement call. A call that was right for her. For her own mental sanity, and I think every game runner and staffer makes those choices at some point in their career.

For Ruiz, anyone have any particular history here? I’m a Ruiz n00b and don’t even know what to look for, or how bad of an actor they are.

KarmaBum

@CuriousGamer said in Ruiz Thread:

For Ruiz, anyone have any particular history here? I’m a Ruiz n00b and don’t even know what to look for, or how bad of an actor they are.

https://musoapbox.net/topic/3534/vague-post-like-woah-advice-please

Sums it up.

Coin

Yeah. That was def Ruiz. This isn’t an opinion. I just got sources.

I’m like April O’Neil or some shit.

Edited because I’m late to the party due to unforeseen connectivity issues dammmmmmit

I’d say Ghost is showing his true colors but the dude’s always been transparent af

Third Eye

@Coin said in Ruiz Thread:

I’d say Ghost is showing his true colors but the dude’s always been transparent af

I mean, he is…

A GHOST.

(they’re transparent, you see. I’m very clever. >.>)

bear_necessities

If this person is Ruiz then I feel even less comfortable with painting him as a victim because this is precisely his MO. We can hate on Macha without turning the other person into a victim - in fact, it is hilarious to me that these two crazy people found each other to be crazy at.

Tez

Or, on the other hand, everyone’s a victim here.

Macha’s a victim of Ruiz.

Ruiz is a victim of Macha.

Cobalt’s a victim of a pit of scorpions.

hellfrog

@bear_necessities it happens so often, people like this are drawn to each other because what’s a red flag? What’s a boundary?

And then the inevitable drama quagmire lands in some poor staffer’s lap.

BloodAngel

junipersky

Hi. I’ve been one of Ruiz-player’s casualties. My topic interactions with them are a big reason I pulled back from all rp eventually.

BloodAngel

@junipersky sorry to hear that. sad

L. B. Heuschkel

https://thepack.aresmush.com/char/Isaac
https://harvestmoons.aresmush.com/char/Elijah

Looks familiar.

BloodAngel

@L-B-Heuschkel said in Ruiz Thread:

ac
https://harvestmoons.aresmush.com/char/

one of these is not

RightMeow

This just makes me sigh.

Wuff

@bear_necessities said in Ruiz Thread:

If this person is Ruiz then I feel even less comfortable with painting him as a victim because this is precisely his MO. We can hate on Macha without turning the other person into a victim - in fact, it is hilarious to me that these two crazy people found each other to be crazy at.

let them

CuriousGamer

@Wuff

Wuff

@CuriousGamer archer slapfight

Cobalt

So, I’m not going to set any “record straight”. But here is my experience with Isaac/Character X.

When they apped onto the pack a couple of my friends (Hexe, Coin) reached out and said “hey heads up this looks like someone who has a habit of harem building and gaslighting and stalking”.

I said “ok, I’ll keep an eye on it”.

Then Isaac put in a request, without speaking to her, to be attached to Darling’s build. Darling expressed discomfort and that she had a history with the player and did not want them to be connected to her build since Isaac had not reached out first.

I sat Isaac down and had a conversation with them, saying: Hey, you have a reputation that is not good and you did a shady thing. You’re not being asked to leave or banned right now, but I want you to be aware I know of your reputation and want to know why you did this shady thing.

Isaac said they thought since Darling had been willing to speak with them OOC and RP in a scene Isaac was in that they thought it meant they could establish communication again and be friends once more.

I said, nah. Don’t do that again.

And from there I did not see actual proof of harem building other than having private scenes with different people, but at least with Machakenzie they were OOCly clear about not wanting to be exclusive with her character.

Refusing to post logs is sus. But that was the only proof I had. So maybe they changed? Or maybe they were just behaving because I made it known I knew about their past behavior.

bear_necessities

@Cobalt is Darling hexe? I ask because that’s extremely disgusting that they would ask that knowing the history between them.

I read the logs. They haven’t changed. The fact that they asked you to come here to remotely defend them tells me that.

Cobalt

@bear_necessities I really don’t want to say yes or no, because I do not have permission from Darling’s player to out her Ares handle.