Brand MU Day
    • Categories
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Groups
    • Register
    • Login

    Why is Pack closing?

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Rough and Rowdy
    180 Posts 53 Posters 18.9k Views
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • saoS
      sao
      last edited by

      FLAMES ON THE SIDE OF MY FACE

      let it be a challenge to you

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 8
      • T
        Testament
        last edited by Testament

        I’d never give away copy of a DB. I’d give away my theme GDoc files, I’d write out the settings I had used in the creation of my game.

        But no way on this green earth would I be willing to give someone who I don’t know access to player’s IP or their logs or pages or anything. There might be two people in this community I’d trust to do that.

        Anyone else is an unknown quantity and it’d just be better for them to make their own game.

        I don't know what I'm doing. Poke at Seven Nations sevennations.aresmush.com port 2021

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 7
        • KarmaBumK
          KarmaBum @Pavel
          last edited by

          @Pavel @Testament Ares has a built-in archival function for essentially everything public-facing. https://gh.texthibitionism.com/ <-- GH archive someone made. It includes all characters, logs, wiki pages. It’s available to anyone who can login to your portal. You just download it as a zip file.

          So banning someone nukes their access.

          (You both have logins; see what it looks like - https://la2043.aresmush.com/wiki-archive)

          On Dragon Wings · https://pern.gaslightswitch.com · pern.gaslightswitch.com port 4201

          PavelP 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
          • PavelP
            Pavel @KarmaBum
            last edited by

            @KarmaBum Mmm, I do have to keep reminding myself that Ares probably doesn’t do things the way I’d expect from another codebase.

            He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.
            BE AN ADULT

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
            • C
              CuriousGamer
              last edited by

              @Cobalt Most people have already covered everything for Macha/Mackenzie here. I will only add that I’ve found out that some of my circle of friends knows some of hers, or are in the same circles, etc.

              She does have her friends in the community. And for the person that was the intermediary, she likely has more. And they have friends. I’m told she ran Marvel: The 80’s.

              There’s also a new game spinning up on ares, harvest moons - it has lycans, witches and such. Some people are checking out this new game - https://harvestmoons.aresmush.com/

              There is something out there now of similar genre.

              TezT KarmaBumK 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 4
              • TezT
                Tez Administrators @CuriousGamer
                last edited by

                @CuriousGamer Does it have farming tho?

                she/they

                C JennkrystJ 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 5
                • C
                  CuriousGamer @Tez
                  last edited by

                  @Tez Probably not in the gameplay, but you could probably be a farmer. It might be less work than an actual harvest moon game.

                  If it’s a game that has at least 50% less Macha, and good coffee - isn’t that what matters?

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                  • KarmaBumK
                    KarmaBum @CuriousGamer
                    last edited by

                    @CuriousGamer at least one of Macha’s buddies is already playing there, so just keep your eyes up

                    On Dragon Wings · https://pern.gaslightswitch.com · pern.gaslightswitch.com port 4201

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • CobaltC
                      Cobalt @IoleRae
                      last edited by

                      @IoleRae said in Why is Pack closing?:

                      @KarmaBum

                      Seconding this. Honestly, in no circumstances would I recommend Cobalt share anything. Given who it is that wants it, no.

                      You have no responsibility to facilitate her abusing people.

                      Yeah, I’m 100% not going to give any copy of the database away. As a gamerunner people put their trust in me to keep their person data safe. I do take this very seriously.

                      I was willing to give my configuration files to people. If folks want the way I had chargen setup. But I’m not sure about even that at this point.

                      Cobalt@Under the Stars
                      cob.alt@Discord
                      Cobalt#3811@mas.to

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 9
                      • TNPT
                        TNP
                        last edited by

                        Back when Empire State Heroes was a thing, Macha was literally in the middle of any drama that happened. If it didn’t involve her directly, she had to jump in and often bitch on MSB. Staff never believed a word she said but she had her defenders and sympathizers. Definitely a very toxic player. and as manipulative as the best (worst) of them.

                        RozR 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 5
                        • M
                          mietze
                          last edited by

                          I have seen a few “handovers” and every single one has been a shitshow, especially when it involves people who have an entitlement problem that they hide behind “Well i’m just upset over the game closing.” I’m sure there has been successful ones too–but not when the people who contributed to the game closing in the first place are involved I’ll bet.

                          IoleRaeI 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 4
                          • RozR
                            Roz @TNP
                            last edited by

                            @TNP Yeah, she had friends back on XMM a decade ago, too.

                            But honestly, I think the thing that bugged her the most was that there were just – plenty of people on the game who didn’t want to play with her. I don’t think we ever saw a log from her as awful as the one Cobalt shared, but that’s primarily because of the specific content/subject. She would very regularly try to revise history throughout her RP to make herself appear better, cast others in a bad light, make her PC the victim/wronged party in any given situation, etc. Revisionist history is one of the biggest, most primary issues I associate with her.

                            By the time we closed XMM all those years ago, she was pretty much the number one person I never wanted to be on a game with again.

                            she/her | playlist

                            MegM 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 6
                            • IoleRaeI
                              IoleRae @mietze
                              last edited by IoleRae

                              @mietze

                              I took over somebody’s game once when the gamerunner wanted out, having not even played there previously. It went awfully. I didn’t have the emotional investment required to generate the energy to do it. I think the circumstances when handoffs work are…minimal, for many many reasons.

                              Def do not recommend in any circumstance beyond passing from game lead to game staffer who has already been running the game or at least is a- invested, and b- reasonably prepared for what’s involved.

                              the entity previously known as Sunny

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 4
                              • MegM
                                Meg @Roz
                                last edited by

                                This post is deleted!
                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • G GF referenced this topic on
                                • ScissorsS
                                  Scissors
                                  last edited by

                                  I don’t want to distract everyone from the Macha hate, but @Cobalt when you get back, can you also elaborate on the OTHER Bad Actors? I know you said there were a number of them that you were about to take action on, Macha/Mackenzie was merely the straw that broke the camel’s back.

                                  With The Pack closing, these Bad Actors are going to be fleeing to other games. People need to keep an eye out for more than just Macha.

                                  Run with Me.

                                  CobaltC 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 8
                                  • JennkrystJ
                                    Jennkryst @Tez
                                    last edited by

                                    @Tez said in Why is Pack closing?:

                                    @CuriousGamer Does it have farming tho?

                                    peaceful life

                                    The only time a hand-over has worked that I’ve seen was in the Exalted MU sphere, which happens because it’s always just the same players re-making the same characters (though sometimes there are new things), so everyone knows eachother. Anyway, a new coder was hired because the one guy that inherited it knew nothing, and the new coder re-wrote everything from the ground up.

                                    Twice.

                                    And then at some point, the original owner did some creeper shit and the coder was like ‘you know… I have shell access. I’m just going to take over’, and the game lasted a while, and then rebooted into a few different settings because that’s just how Exalted MU works. 3:1 time scale, so each 15-month year passes in 5 months, and Solars quickly get to ‘I win everything’ levels, so people get bored, and yay reboot.

                                    But this it totally a highly unique situation that probably won’t happen again for a while yet.

                                    Mummy Pun? MUMMY PUN!
                                    She/her

                                    J 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                    • J
                                      jujube @Jennkryst
                                      last edited by

                                      I thought the Pack was closing at the end of the month. It’s down. Does that mean it’s closed early?

                                      @Cobalt Can you please shed some light maybe? Thanks!

                                      S 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • S
                                        sixregrets @jujube
                                        last edited by

                                        @jujube Cobalt is mid-RL move and probably won’t respond quickly if it was unplanned.

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • CobaltC
                                          Cobalt
                                          last edited by Cobalt

                                          It isn’t an intended closure. I’ll see if I can get it back up.

                                          ETA: I tried to restart the game, but it’s refusing to start up. I’ve pinged Faraday on the ares discord, but I gotta go to bed shortly.

                                          Cobalt@Under the Stars
                                          cob.alt@Discord
                                          Cobalt#3811@mas.to

                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • CobaltC
                                            Cobalt @Scissors
                                            last edited by

                                            @Scissors said in Why is Pack closing?:

                                            I don’t want to distract everyone from the Macha hate, but @Cobalt when you get back, can you also elaborate on the OTHER Bad Actors? I know you said there were a number of them that you were about to take action on, Macha/Mackenzie was merely the straw that broke the camel’s back.

                                            With The Pack closing, these Bad Actors are going to be fleeing to other games. People need to keep an eye out for more than just Macha.

                                            I’ve given this info out to the game runners who have contacted me. Macha was one of the person who was going to be banned, but I hadn’t yet. Two others were on my mental watch list and I hadn’t had time to investigate if the claims against them were true or not. So I’m a little hesitant to name and shame people I haven’t verified are creepers.

                                            I was told that a player was Rex/Sovereign. So that was something I needed to investigate.

                                            I had reports of a player who was telling people IC and OOC they didn’t want any romantic RP to their IC sex partners but was potentially doing romantic RP in private scenes and deliberately not sharing them to hide this. This one is difficult to confirm/deny. This same player, however, also did do some shady stuff by going through staff to ask to be given a home at another player’s build without speaking to that other player… Who was someone who asked for non-contact with them, and when I called them on it they told me “I was hoping we could be friends again”.

                                            I had a conversation with this person about their reputation (playing secret harem, gaslighting, etc) and told them that behavior needed to not happen on the game. So far they had done nothing further to make me have to speak with them.

                                            And in fact are Character X in the above logs. But they were on my mental list to keep an eye out for shenanigans. I didn’t witness any further misbehavior but… they do have a reputation of it in the past.

                                            tl;dr some details above, but i’ve given all this info to game runners who have asked for them.

                                            Cobalt@Under the Stars
                                            cob.alt@Discord
                                            Cobalt#3811@mas.to

                                            ScissorsS WizzW 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 2
                                            • First post
                                              Last post