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      EDI7078 last edited by EDI7078

      Discord for MU* players and staff of the past, present, and future! If you’re looking for somewhere to connect with fellow players off-game or looking for an old friend, this is a great place to start.

      https://discord.gg/MqvfQQx

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      • Kestrel
        Kestrel last edited by

        I am second-hand embarrassed for the lack of moderation in this server, and the spineless dancing about that admins attempt in place of it.

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          GF @Kestrel last edited by

          @Kestrel I got some paper towels right here if you want to spill any tea.

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            icanbeyourmuse last edited by

            From my reading of chat with a whole bunch of responses to now deleted posts: Someone was upset that a joke they made wasn’t understood by people who asked about it. One person insinuated being gay was a bad thing after talks of blocking because people didn’t want to listen to the joke maker. Went down hill from that. Since I didn’t see what was deleted, I only know one side (pretty literally) of what went down.

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            • Jumpscare
              Jumpscare last edited by

              I’ve been there for a while, mostly lurking. It’s a quiet place, but also a haven for slurs and homophobia. As long as you don’t harass another member, your posts don’t get moderated.

              Looks like they banned NEETzsche for harassing Thenomain, at least.

              I think this screenshot sums up NEETzsche. It isn’t the worst thing he said during his time there, but it’s enough to understand the kind of person he is.

              d4766cc9-b865-4baa-9399-cddcdc9ae090-image.png

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              • Pavel
                Pavel last edited by

                I mostly use/used it as a resource to find answers to code questions and ignore it the rest of the time. Like with every other discord server I’ve joined.

                He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.

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                • Kestrel
                  Kestrel last edited by Kestrel

                  I’m a dumbass for responding to NEET at all after they used a clown world emoji, but in my defence I only learned that’s a Nazi dog-whistle after I showed my phone (and the Discord exchange on it) to an RL friend of mine, who was immediately alarmed by it and pointed out a whole host of other dog-whistles throughout.

                  The far more transparent actual slurs should’ve been harder to miss, and addressed much sooner and more harshly. I don’t at all understand the idea of asking a person nicely to stop three times when it’s already clear they’re not there in good faith. Like why sit there and let them do this whole Jigsaw spiel, and have it drag out for a week while everyone else is made uncomfortable? That could’ve and should’ve been resolved within seconds.

                  Honestly this was the first time in my life I’ve ever found myself understanding their mindset that the people they’re there to harass are weak. You don’t debate these people, you shut them down immediately. WT-actual-F.

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                    GF last edited by

                    Oh Christ, that guy. I’m 99% positive he was briefly on a Discord for a dead WoD game I never bothered to leave. One day, he started complaining that the reason White Wolf failed as a publisher is that they donate more of their money than their books actually make to support queer charities, and ““joked”” that because of this, all queer people should die in a fire. When called on it, he both denied he was mocking anyone and said that people who call him out on it are the reason he mocks queer people, then dropped a bunch of mask-off slurs until he was banned.

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                      Pyrephox Administrators last edited by

                      God, I remember the MSB thread on Dreamwalk. That guy was ridiculous.

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                      • Wizz
                        Wizz @Pyrephox last edited by Wizz

                        @Pyrephox

                        Yeah, “I also made Dreamwalk MUSH” was as far as I needed to read to go “ohhhhh, that asshole.”

                        I actually went and tried Dreamwalk until he had his little meltdown, it was bizarre. The game was legitimately a neat idea at first, but he was deliberately trying to create upsetting and offensive scenarios with it exactly as he described, to the point where it became clear that the entire premise of even making the game was just like…a cover for his real goal of trying to hurt people. There’s something deeply broken in that dude.

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                          GF last edited by

                          I didn’t know the guy had an MSB presence, so I looked him up. Here is his final post before banning, if anyone was curious. It was his 34th post on the board.

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                          • tsar
                            tsar last edited by

                            Man, I did not know that about clowns 😧

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                            • Kestrel
                              Kestrel @tsar last edited by Kestrel

                              @tsar said in MuHaven:

                              Man, I did not know that about clowns 😧

                              Well, knowledge is power, and I didn’t know either. I’ve purposely buried my head in the sand for the last couple years of nonstop depressing news coverage of various world events, and the unfortunate lesson from all of that is it means I’m now more easily taken in than I used to be.

                              Sooo … maybe I should be thanking this dude, because if I hadn’t had that recent experience on that server, I wouldn’t have had the receipts to show a friend who pointed out the many red flags I missed, and wouldn’t have been prompted to read up and refresh my dangerous-and-psychotic-conspiracy-nut radar. Internet culture and lingo, including theirs, moves fast.

                              A few clicks through related reading on the link I posted above led me to this handy resource, for anyone else who deems a refresher course important.

                              @GF said in MuHaven:

                              I didn’t know the guy had an MSB presence, so I looked him up. Here is his final post before banning, if anyone was curious. It was his 34th post on the board.

                              Thanks for that link. I’d assumed this was Tyche or whatever loser has been banned from MSB a hundred times now for the same shit, but I’m sure there’s more than one. And alas I’m apparently not myself immune to bigotry, because they all look the same to me.

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                                Pyrephox Administrators @GF last edited by

                                @GF said in MuHaven:

                                I didn’t know the guy had an MSB presence, so I looked him up. Here is his final post before banning, if anyone was curious. It was his 34th post on the board.

                                It’s ‘nice’ when the racist assholes out themselves so thoroughly.

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                                  GF @Pyrephox last edited by

                                  @Pyrephox said in MuHaven:

                                  It’s ‘nice’ when the racist assholes out themselves so thoroughly.

                                  Considerate of them to spare us the effort of guessing, anyway.

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                                    Arkandel @Pyrephox last edited by

                                    @Pyrephox said in MuHaven:

                                    It’s ‘nice’ when the racist assholes out themselves so thoroughly.

                                    To be fair (?) they rarely leave us guessing.

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                                      Wizz @Kestrel last edited by

                                      @Kestrel said in MuHaven:

                                      I’d assumed this was Tyche or whatever loser has been banned from MSB a hundred times now for the same shit

                                      Tbh I was fairly certain at the time that it was all just one person or at most two, including Tyche, Rick Sanchez, and demiurge/neetzche/whatever. I still wouldn’t be surprised to find out that was the case. They all had some basic technical aptitude, they all skirted offensive shit for as long as they could in the exact same way, shared the same kinds of memes, talking points, etc before devolving into outright hatespeech. All of the accounts in the same pattern, over and over again.

                                      Just seems like one incredibly lame person with too much time on their hands and possibly some untreated mental illness.

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                                        Jumpscare @Kestrel last edited by

                                        @Kestrel said in MuHaven:

                                        A few clicks through related reading on the link I posted above led me to this handy resource, for anyone else who deems a refresher course important.

                                        Thanks for the refresher. I learned a few new ones today.

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                                        • Jennkryst
                                          Jennkryst last edited by

                                          I am half tempted to join, if for no other reason than to be able to annoy another group of people about ‘this is my latest obsession, plz code mush before I move onto the next obsession in ADHD fashion, kthxbai’

                                          Mummy Pun? MUMMY PUN!
                                          She/her

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                                            SpaceKhomeini @Jennkryst last edited by

                                            @Jennkryst

                                            I’m half-tempted to join just how fast I can get deliberately banned but I keep telling myself I’m not that person anymore.

                                            I woke up feeling so good, I think I’d better call in sick/ I need a personal trainer to help me hold my drink
                                            I plan to be spontaneous next time we meet/I’m putting off procrastinating until next week
                                            I’ll get onto it when I give a shit

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