Numetal/Retromux

Gashlycrumb

@Gashlycrumb said in Numetal/Retromux:

Having to force my character to act against his own interests in order to participate was the problem.

This is a very interesting statement, because for some people, asking their characters to act against their own interests is good RP.

Erm, what?

Larry Leader tells your PC, “Fuck you, you useless fuck. Now lick my asshole for a few hours every week if you want me to give you the chance to do something that will benefit me and almost certainly harm you. I will not pay you for it. I won’t even let it improve your reputation if I can prevent that, and I can.”

So your PC does it 'cause that’s good RP?

Prototart

@MisterBoring said in Numetal/Retromux:

@Gashlycrumb said in Numetal/Retromux:

Having to force my character to act against his own interests in order to participate was the problem.

This is a very interesting statement, because for some people, asking their characters to act against their own interests is good RP.

Just because you’re into spanking doesn’t mean you’ll be cool with somebody pulling out a scourge.

Jennkryst

@Gashlycrumb No, my PC stabs Larry Leader in the face. And when staff goes ‘no this is not allowed’ go ‘I dunno, it sure looks like I got enough successes to kill Larry and take the throne’ and then when I get PK’d other people will maybe quit due to staff cheating fuckery. Or not. But whatevs.

Ashkuri

WOD players are you guys okay??

Muse

Hi @Autumn for clarity, the Prince, Sept Alpha, etc at Retro are NPCs. I also think it’s best for the game and community when NPCs hold these pivotal leadership positions.

I recognize there are several voices here saying ‘I tried, I saw this concerning thing, I felt like I got no traction when voicing my concerns, and I left.’ Which is all very reasonable to me. This hobby is an investment and if it’s not fun, it’s hard to want to continue to invest. I think we’ve all had experiences with this.

I would, however, encourage people with concerns to connect with the HSTs directly, and formally. This helps us differentiate between frustrations that are being vented, and a call for action. It also pulls all three of the HSTs into a discussion, versus just the Sphere lead, about what’s happening, and it helps establish a pattern of behavior (we do track things).

Our current staff line up is:

Chaos (HST, Lead: Vampire)
Daedalus (HST, Mage Lead, Tech)
Ori (HST, Shifter Lead)
Inari (Admin: Build)
Inky (Changeling and Wraith Lead)
Headcrab (Admin: Vampire)
Navi (Admin: Shifter)
Mr. Gutsy (ST: Shifter)
Pumpkinhead (ST: Shifter)
Jaskier (ST: Shifter)

There’s been a lot of changes among staff over the past year, there’s also been a lot of changes in the game itself. We’ve grown a lot, and our hope is to continue to grow in a way that promotes a healthy game, with a strong community, that operates with high levels of trust. That has always been where the best stories can be told, and best experiences can be had, and I want us to get there.

But there’s a lot of history, and frankly, a lot of trauma in this community, and we’re all human. It takes time to make things better, and communication, but we’re going to keep trying, and I encourage you guys to keep trying too. Even if it’s not with us.

-Muse/Ori

Wizz

@Jennkryst said in Numetal/Retromux:

@Gashlycrumb No, my PC stabs Larry Leader in the face. And when staff goes ‘no this is not allowed’ go ‘I dunno, it sure looks like I got enough successes to kill Larry and take the throne’ and then when I get PK’d other people will maybe quit due to staff cheating fuckery. Or not. But whatevs.

y’all. go outside. for…like…a while.

being in this headspace is just Not Good, for anyone involved.

again:

@Ashkuri said in Numetal/Retromux:

WOD players are you guys okay??

Noraaa

making mental note to scrap NPC Larry the Prince idea

also…

@Ashkuri said in Numetal/Retromux:

WOD players are you guys okay??

MisterBoring

@Gashlycrumb said in Numetal/Retromux:

Larry Leader tells your PC, “Fuck you, you useless fuck. Now lick my asshole for a few hours every week if you want me to give you the chance to do something that will benefit me and almost certainly harm you. I will not pay you for it. I won’t even let it improve your reputation if I can prevent that, and I can.”

So your PC does it 'cause that’s good RP?

No. Your character’s IC response to being asked is normally where the good RP happens. Though perhaps in some cases the response leads to the same request and repetition is the definition of insanity.

Jennkryst

@Wizz said in Numetal/Retromux:

y’all. go outside. for…like…a while.

being in this headspace is just Not Good, for anyone involved.

I work in food service. I mu for pretend fun times, not to put up with the same kind of shit I at least get paid for at work.

somasatori

@Ashkuri said in Numetal/Retromux:

WOD players are you guys okay??

laughs in 30 years of MUSH history

Gashlycrumb

@MisterBoring

Bold to assume that Larry Leader was asking. As if it was a normal RPG story where Lord Larry Leader fills the narrative role of plot-hook-distributor and says, “You peasants, bring me the head of Fred the Foe or I’ll set these puppies on fire!” Yeah, that’s fun, and my IC response is where the fun tends to happen.

But no, that’s not the situation I am describing. Larry’s not asking. There are no negative consequences to Larry if he waits forever to make a move on that head, so he can do it himself when he feels like it, or give it to his bestie, or forget about it. Any loot or interesting information picked up from going to get the head will be his.

Pavel

Just picture the prat in your tabletop group who whines “but it’s what my character would do” becomes your supervisor at work. That’s the level of shitfuckery we’re talking about here—I don’t have the exact same experience as Gashly but it’s been going on in WoD (at least) for the past coughcoughcough decades that we all know the dance steps.