Macha Awareness (And Unappreciation) thread

Gasboy

@Tez What I mean is, people may not wish to provide Google with information that Google can sell to advertisers. You may not have to log in, but Google is able to track you.

hellfrog

It’s ok, the other log is not really an illuminating read in any way. Just shows that the other player involved was ICly open to a sexual relationship, just with whatever boundaries.

At least, I assume that’s what it was meant to show. IDK, people like to play unhinged or unhealthy relationships and that’s fine, but it does tend to magnify unhealthy ooc issues. Which it seems were kind of miring down the game in question anyway. Which Cobalt already lamented!

Tez

@Gasboy I am really not personally comfortable with resposting the logs from another forum in that fashion when they are already available.

Pyrephox

@Tez said in Macha Awareness (And Unappreciation) thread:

@Gasboy I am really not personally comfortable with resposting the logs from another forum in that fashion when they are already available.

Yes, can we please not do that?

KarmaBum

@Tez Thank you.

Tez

I forked the Ruiz stuff here so it doesn’t get buried.

Roz

@Gasboy said in Macha Awareness (And Unappreciation) thread:

@Tez What I mean is, people may not wish to provide Google with information that Google can sell to advertisers. You may not have to log in, but Google is able to track you.

This is such a weird take. If people feel that way, they can just look at things in an incognito window without cookies enabled or wtfe.

We don’t need to repost the whole internet to let people avoid the Google overlords.

Gasboy

@Roz Yeah, I get that.

icanbeyourmuse

The only thing that annoys me about the MSB post about The Pack/Cobalt is the fact they are acting like Cobalt isn’t allowed to feel something is sexual harassment because ‘they don’t feel it is.’ They can totally disagree but her feeling what happened is should not be scorned like they are doing. It is her game, her feelings. She can absolutely ban someone for something she feels is out of her bounds of acceptable. Otherwise, more power to them for doing what they want. They have their place of outlet that is their safe place.

KarmaBum

@icanbeyourmuse remember who you’re talking about, though. Macha lies and twists things.

She’s at the top of her post talking about “a good dozen” people telling her all about how awful we’re being, then insisting she has no friends (minions) involved in this.

This is a person who has long-since abdicated accepting any responsibility for her actions. She is never the problem.

Cobalt is just the latest person she’s blaming for her own gross behavior.

That Ghost, Devrex, Derp and the remaining members of the Vocal Majority (lo fucking l) are propping her up? Is the only thing they can do short of admitting they backed the wrong horse.

hellfrog

@KarmaBum hmm ok but friendship IS bad
we have established this

IDK, she’s winning me over to her side with the logic!

KarmaBum

@hellfrog well of course she is!!! didn’t you never even get banned?!

you’ve been the sleeper minion all along, admit it

icanbeyourmuse

@KarmaBum Outside of what you guys have said I don’t really know anything about Macha. If I’ve interacted with her in any form I’ve not been aware of it and if I have and she tried to do be bad I likely didn’t even notice. I just stop talking/playing with people I am not comfortable with or I feel like I am bothering them. If I stopped talking to someone the latter is the most likely thing that happened. It is hard to make me uncomfortable.

I’ve already said my thoughts on the others. Except ghost. He just gives me the vibe he likes creating drama while pretending he isn’t out to do just that.

hellfrog

@KarmaBum I GOT BANNED EVENTUALLY
how dare you

KarmaBum

@hellfrog in the version of the story that i’m going to post and tell a good dozen or so people is true, you never got banned

(that’s how this works, right? i just decide what actually happened regardless of the facts? i feel like that’s how this works)

NotSanni

@icanbeyourmuse said in Macha Awareness (And Unappreciation) thread:

I’ve already said my thoughts on the others. Except ghost. He just gives me the vibe he likes creating drama while pretending he isn’t out to do just that.

That’s almost certainly what he’s doing. He shows up on r/mud to do the same thing once in a while. He’s a dillweed.

bear_necessities

@KarmaBum as one of your 12 friends I totally believe you

icanbeyourmuse

@NotSanni said in Macha Awareness (And Unappreciation) thread:

@icanbeyourmuse said in Macha Awareness (And Unappreciation) thread:

I’ve already said my thoughts on the others. Except ghost. He just gives me the vibe he likes creating drama while pretending he isn’t out to do just that.

That’s almost certainly what he’s doing. He shows up on r/mud to do the same thing once in a while. He’s a dillweed.

Ooh well. If it makes him happy, good for him (though, it doesn’t seem like it does). It really doesn’t bother me. It just makes me aware he is someone I don’t want to be around because the drama will just annoy me.

Cobalt

I just can’t even…

NotSanni

@Cobalt said in Macha Awareness (And Unappreciation) thread:

I just can’t even…

I’m more MUSH adjacent than a MUSH player. I mostly like to just be kept apprised of problematic actors that might wander into adjacent places (MUDs, MOOs, etc.), so I don’t really have a lot of stake in any of this. I followed over to BMD because I see value in those aforementioned things, and keeping my finger on the pulse, and didn’t really like the writing on the wall on MSB.

But from a pretty unbiased place (aside from being biased against the draconian nonsense that went down, but whatevs), what it looks like happened is Macha got mad that she got called out, and decided to stir up trouble on the other board (just like she stirred up all the drama over on MSB) to try to obfuscate the situation and discredit you.

Maybe that isn’t what happened, and maybe there IS something else going on, but I’m of the opinion that: if that’s true, it will eventually be outed, because to me it’s MUCH more plausible that a problematic player is obfuscating things than a game dev is obfuscating things to the degree that they would shut down their entire game (and that’s a WHOLE lot of tracks to cover, compared to one problematic player trying to flip the narrative).

Hence all of the mental gymnastics they’re going through to try to justify that major decision.