Why is Pack closing?

Herja

I really hate the people in this hobby that ruin shit for everyone. I’m also so sorry that you have had to deal with this situation. This is the part of staffing a game that can be absolutely soul crushing.

KarmaBum

Sorry this is how it turned out, @Cobalt. Hope you find someplace to play that you enjoy!

Bessarion

I know that the game attracted at least one known problem player from past WoD games and I’m pissed that people couldn’t just… not. It was a great game with a lot of potential.

Cobalt

@KarmaBum That is the thing that I think is the issue. It was too similar to a WoD theme. WoD itself attracts a lot of predatory people because it is a game about being predators.

Gasboy

@Cobalt That’s horrible. Always with the bad apples spoiling it for the rest of us.

Testament

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@Third-Eye said in Why is Pack closing?:

Ugh this sucks. It’s a game people really seemed to be responding to, but I definitely get opting out of the bullshit. The Worst people ruin things for everyone.

50% why I don’t run a game – I’d just get drunk and ban people in the night.

I mean, that’s more or less what I do.

Bessarion

@Testament I mean, it’s what I did with the one guy I’ve had to ban so far. He got a warning before I went to bed. I woke up to reported conversations that showed he had not even listened a little bit. YEET.

KarmaBum

@Cobalt I think you probably meant to @-someone else, but it is admittedly the reason I never pcreated there. I enjoyed the few times I know of that I played with you over the years, but I am always wary of shifter games in particular. Too many people in WoD took it to a gross, gross place.

IoleRae

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, I’m so sorry.

Cobalt

@KarmaBum said in Why is Pack closing?:

@Cobalt I think you probably meant to @-someone else, but it is admittedly the reason I never pcreated there. I enjoyed the few times I know of that I played with you over the years, but I am always wary of shifter games in particular. Too many people in WoD took it to a gross, gross place.

Whoops! Yeah, I meant to @ @Bessarion.

But, yeah. I love the shifter stuff, but I think the setting was just too close WoD. idk, something about the theme just…

shrug

Pyrephox

@Cobalt I think having the dom/sub theme that a lot of shifter games tend to have baked in can bring out a lot of the abusive assholes who want to let their inner controlling chucklefuck out while saying “it’s theme!” Both sexually, and just general posturing about how alpha they are.

It’s a real shame, because you make fun themes!

GF

@Cobalt said in Why is Pack closing?:

I love the shifter stuff, but I think the setting was just too close WoD.

I doubt it’s to do with the setting being close to any other setting. Weird little creeps will always feel compelled to turn their problems into your problems.

Pax

@GF Eh. I like WoD but it definitely brings out the weirdos. It’s usually the vampires being edgelords but say that too loudly and suddenly it’s a competition.

Jennkryst

Suddenly realizing that the ideal solution to dealing with problematic shifter people in WoD is the very thing every game has banned.

SnekMurderDeathKillSquad shows up and… MurderDeathKills the character who is a fucking problem.

Then they leave three sea shells behind as a warning to other would-be Creeps.

sao

Characters aren’t the problem.

Wuff

@Jennkryst said in Why is Pack closing?:

Then they leave three sea shells behind as a warning to other would-be Creeps.

Three Seashells

Sadly, they’d just app new characters to creep with.

Bessarion

@Pax said in Why is Pack closing?:

@GF Eh. I like WoD but it definitely brings out the weirdos. It’s usually the vampires being edgelords but say that too loudly and suddenly it’s a competition.

With some people, everything with shifters becomes a sex thing and they go all Shang. This isn’t TS-shaming. This is saying that for these people, their character and their RP all start to center around their kinks, and they think this is what everyone else is there for, too.

GF

@Bessarion said in Why is Pack closing?:

This isn’t TS-shaming.

Agreed. This is creep-shaming.

GF

@Pax said in Why is Pack closing?:

@GF Eh. I like WoD but it definitely brings out the weirdos.

So does every game I’ve ever been on and every game I’ve ever heard people talk about on any iteration of this site.

Bessarion

@GF said in Why is Pack closing?:

@Pax said in Why is Pack closing?:

@GF Eh. I like WoD but it definitely brings out the weirdos.

So does every game I’ve ever been on and every game I’ve ever heard people talk about on any iteration of this site.

Yes and no. Some themes draw more people with more problematic behavior. WoD-like games will draw more of the people who never stopped being Those Creeps From WoD Games. Like, Rex/Sovereign can and will (and has) come crawling out of the woodwork, and god knows who he might drag with him.