Suspected Superhero Creeping Or Something

Tez

@BloodAngel Having read the conversation on MSB – GOD SO MANY PLACES – I would be pretty satisfied with how I came off if I was Lithium. They don’t look bad there.

IoleRae

Are you people fucking kidding me? WTAF.

So folks aren’t allowed to defend themselves at all, any more? Is THIS what we’re turning into?

Snackness

Roz

I don’t even like Lithium but the OOC convo they posted between them and Tony Stark’s player (Runescryer?) makes Tony look weirdly controlling about other people’s RP, it doesn’t make Lithium look bad.

That’s my hot take.

GF

@IoleRae said in DWOPP-spotting:

@GF

Somebody accused them of being DWOPP and you’re telling them they should just take it? What sort of response do you think would be appropriate if somebody said you were Spider?

I’m not telling them to just take it. I’m asking if the approach they have chosen has yielded the desired results.

Also, I could be confusing forums, but didn’t someone explicitly say Lithium is not DWOPP because the pattern doesn’t quite fit and the IP address is wrong?

Tez

@IoleRae said in DWOPP-spotting:

Are you people fucking kidding me? WTAF.

So folks aren’t allowed to defend themselves at all, any more? Is THIS what we’re turning into?

I agree. If someone I was slapfighting called me DWOPP on a forum they are admin on I’d be way more mad than Lithium. Multiple caps lock posts.

IoleRae

@GF

Yes. It has been established explicitly that they are not. That does not in any way, shape, or form mean that the accusation wasn’t made, or that it removes the right of that person to talk about it.

Please recall how furious and upset I was about the lies being spread about me by a certain bad actor, and how THOROUGHLY everybody stood up for me, and those lies NEVER GOT POSTED PUBLICLY.

These lies did.

I don’t like Lithium. I had one encounter that went very poorly and I am very glad they stay far away from me, but this is RIDICULOLUS.

Meg

@Tez well, I remember one time that runescryer invited me to post more about addressing problems of MSB, and then in the middle of that conversation that I had already tried to bow out of, then posted an anonymous DM he ‘received’ accusing me, GF, and Selira of being bullies.

And now I am reading a DM on MSB where he is absolutely bullying someone about a throw away comment made in a log of a private scene.

Fucking lol.

BloodAngel

@Tez Baned on MSB.

Tez

@BloodAngel All the cool kids are.

I’m even standing in line for our boosters with @Roz and @Meg right now thinking about how much cooler they are than me.

Runescryer

@Coin Pattern Recognition is kind of speculation. I don’t need to know that the 18-wheeler a few cars ahead of me slamming on it’s brakes is going to crash before swerving to avoid something that might not happen.

And, yes. It’s because it was speculation that I didn’t mention names or locations as of yet. I was giving a general warning, specifically for a possible DWOPP return, but also as a general ‘watch your games because we’ve got an active creeper’. ZG stepped forward with the identity of the game; Lithium outed themselves when nobody was directly accusing him. I feel confident in trying to maintain as much annominity of those involved as possible. If Lithium hadn’t made his public protest, I would have accepted the results of ZG’s investigation and said “The person in question isn’t DWOPP, but is still showing signs of toxic behavior,” and kept the general warning.

Pavel

Accusations are flying. We’re getting half-truths from practically everyone involved. I made a bad joke. IoleRae is losing their shit…

Man, it’s like the Hog Pit never left.

IoleRae

@Pavel

I’ll show you losing my shit.

sao

I also dislike Lithium and all of my memories of my experiences with them are bad and I think it’s fine to defend themselves from being compared with DWOPP.

And I also read the pages and I don’t think Warren comes off as the asshole in that convo at all. And I was very prepared to believe they would, because I remember the bone-deep relief I felt when Lithium was banned from Arx (sorry, Arx out of season, I accept the penalty).

I also think it’s not a good look to decide to publicly compare someone you’re in an OOC/IC tiff with to DWOPP.

But I remain firm in my original belief that more gamerunners should look at drama between multiple players that they don’t wanna deal with and just go “bye” like this.