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How to Greet a Roster Player
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Also, if, as a pretty seasoned Arx player who knows how to reach out to people, I feel worthless if no one acknowledges my presence? Imagine how new(er) players feel.
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I still haven’t figured it out. In my case, because my character is not part of any families or anything, it’s pretty easy to just wait until I can organically reintroduce myself to them if they were just an acquaintance, but gosh, friendships and complicated relationships/rivalries/romance are so difficult to broach.
I usually wait to see if they even want that information via a BBPost, then I provide it in an @mail, basically just detailing a broad overview of how the characters have known one another in the most basic of terms. I’m quite scared of coming off as pressuring a continuation of a relationship when that might be totally unwanted, so I leave things very much past-tense.
…it extra doesn’t help that the first Roster transfer experience I encountered was DWOPP. Frigging DWOPP.
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Lol, whenever I page a hello to someone who takes a family member or my spouse they immediately log off.
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@Solstice There’s no good way to say “hey we used to bang” without sounding like a huge creep. I just let it die - though I have picked up rosters and known exactly who they were up to, because of old messengers.
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@farfalla said in How to Greet a Roster Player:
@Solstice There’s no good way to say “hey we used to bang” without sounding like a huge creep.
There’s really not.
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@farfalla ‘Our characters had a romantic-inclined relationship if you want to continue or discuss it, let me know’ implies, at least.
One belated note: Keeping up the ‘check in’ AFTER the ‘newness’ wears off is good too. This ties a little into my peeve about @RS and the people who do 1 or 2 scenes those first couple weeks then basically never again.
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One nice thing about folks in your org is that you can use the org channel there to start off the hellos, which I think may be a little less overwhelming than immediate pages! I feel okay saying hi to someone pretty immediately on an org channel. For pages, I try to not immediately leap on them as soon as they connect, but at least give them a few minutes to get settled and whatnot. But then, yeah, I’ll page, say hello, all that jazz.
For connections that aren’t org-based, it can be trickier. Good friendships? Yeah, absolutely, I’ll reach out. Sexual and/or romantic connections? Very situationally dependent. If it was just characters hooking up a few times and nothing beyond that, I’ll generally not say anything. If it was more involved than that, like a serious, ongoing connection? I’ll try to just broach it as respectfully as possible, letting the new player know there was a history, but giving them the opportunity to basically opt in or out of hearing about it. I also might wait a little longer than IMMEDIATELY when a character comes off the roster for that sort of conversation. It really just depends.
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@Roz I find that people logging in the first time aren’t always on the org channel, somehow?? But yes I also wait at least a couple of minutes before I page.
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@farfalla From my experience picking up a truly embarassing number of rosters, all of the org channels are turned off. I think it must be part of the wipe from the previous time the roster was played.
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@Snackness Makes sense. Usually they find their way to the channel but I’ve greeted some people via page that had no idea it existed.
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@farfalla said in How to Greet a Roster Player:
@Roz I find that people logging in the first time aren’t always on the org channel, somehow?? But yes I also wait at least a couple of minutes before I page.
I think they SHOULD be codedly, I remember them making that update at one point, although especially recently with the roster weirdness having to be done by hand, I bet that wasn’t turned on automatically. But yeah I’ll check the channel list to make sure first.
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My recent experience: I just picked up my second roster ever, and this is the first time I did not have an army of prior connections and orgs to draw upon. She is a bit of a blank slate in every way. Sent a mail and IC messenger to house leadership, but aside from a brief page chat with HoH, it’s been pretty quiet. A hello and some outreach is great and I’d definitely feel fuzzier with one, but I am also very aware that sometimes the other players just don’t have the bandwidth or time to make moves or commit to anything. Have to strike a balance, there, between eagerness to get involved and patience with everyone around me.
I am going to keep at it, hopefully without being a nuisance in the process, and make new connections that will fulfill me in the meanwhile. May even post something in OOC Stuff seeking connections. To Snackness’ point, it definitely took a while playing in Arx for me to build the confidence up to reach out like that, though.
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It always takes me 2+ days to remember how to turn channels on so a page is nice.
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It’s nice when HoH/Voice sends a welcome back to the city messenger with a little bit of “start-up” silver.
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I am normally an advocate for not expecting extra work from IC leaders, but greeting new people is the one thing I feel is definitely my responsibility. I also enjoy it! It’s wild to me that org leaders aren’t regularly doing that. Though I guess to be fair my org is very small.
I’m glad to know most people like being greeting. I sometimes worry I’m bothering people so now I can greet without fear. So if you join the King’s Own you can look forward to an enthusiastic hello. And some silver, for @helvetica.
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@farfalla said in How to Greet a Roster Player:
…<snip> So if you join the King’s Own you can look forward to an enthusiastic hello. And some silver, for @helvetica.
Oh, hey, I didn’t know this was an option.
Def greet my new roster with silver, please.
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I feel like often the experiences with roster characters is so scatter shot. Sometimes it goes really well, and sometimes it goes…not great. I’ve personally had mixed results, and a large part of that has to do with who is in the main org your character is apart of.
Is their leaders active?
Are they inclusive?
Does the character have decent connections?
Was the roster ever really played previously?
Did the last player leave notes?
Is their secret even relevant these days?Depending on how you would answer those questions, I think often times will make or break a roster character being hung onto or being hung up or idled out. I once had a character for all of maybe…a few hours? The page seemed interesting, but everything around them once I got the character was not great. So I think often times it really varies, and with that, I think a lot of that fall upon just how active are the org the character is apart of. Is that the case every time? Of course not, but I do often see it as one of the bigger reasons why it doesn’t.
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I used to joke that if Arx retained the @mail between characters that Eiran Laurent would just be a stream of me being like “Hello! This is Cristoph and I…” blah blah blah variations of this, from me trying to catch people. Laurent doesn’t really have much in the way of any rosters for people to pick up anymore, so I’m not going through this so much.
But I’m just burned out on greeting people and never getting a response. So many Eirans, Klauseseses, Cassandras. Or reaching out and seeing when they wanted a scene to get them settled in and getting nothing.
So I think sometimes when you run into that, sometimes it’s just a very tired person that is themselves tired of being silently rejected. I don’t know if there’s a good solution there.
Anyone looking at this thread and commenting to find solutions for the one problem is probably not the kind of player that would ignore a proactive org leader, lol.
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@tsar Well this is more effort than I give, lol. I just… wait until they’re on and page them. Then I make sure they have a room, armor, keys, etc.
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Damned if you page as it can be overwhelming.
Damned if you don’t as you neglect them.
But this is all useful to read, I guess to break this down in 2 sections for interactions on my behalf.
Are you in the org?
When I get a chance a check on the channel if on it, otherwise a page welcoming on in. General check in, how’s life. You know, small talk. Ask if there were anything in particular they wanted to do with the character. In case they already have a whole idea and then how I can help facilitate that if appropriate or applicable.
Then a general check if they have the materials, resources, silver or even the contact to do the above.
Did we previously RP?
Only if there is an OOC post inviting such, will drop a mail with myself copied in (so I can recycle it. Sorry/not sorry.). Will focus it on the “what was the hook here” and basically leave it entirely in their court. Had some absolutely wonderful success with this, better than expected. Maybe 80% of the time no reply but it’s fine. I did my bit.