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@Wizz said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:
there are a lot of people who are just bad at this period
I definitely agree with this, which is why I’m always baffled about why people declare no bar RP/no social fluff. All RP has the capacity to be bad (or GREAT). I can trust @Ashkuri to make mail sorting somehow entertaining, heart-wrenching, and character development rich.
I suppose in the end there are MANY factors that feed into “good” or “bad” RP… but that nuance is too confusing to talk about. <<; Or maybe just less fun to talk about.
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@Wizz said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:
I get this and I do sympathize with it, and I’m just gonna suggest that exploratory ventures into a style you don’t personally enjoy are probably going to be colored by that bias, in addition to the simple fact that, again, there are a lot of people who are just bad at this period, lol, whether that’s due to inexperience or whatever else. it’s not just that playing a different way is worse.
i can say that my dislike of async has zero to do with the writing styles people may or may not utilize while playing. it has zero to do with the actual pose content, because that’s entirely variable
it has everything to do with the timing and rhythm constraints that ARE inherent to async. i’ve done plenty of async scenes with a bunch of different people over the years; it’s incredibly difficult even with people whose RP i love. it’s entirely about the nature of async itself
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@Roz valid! some people just don’t like it, that’s absolutely fine. sorry if I made it seem like it wasn’t when I responded to you earlier, I was just trying to be a silly goose.
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@Yam said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:
I definitely agree with this, which is why I’m always baffled about why people declare no bar RP/no social fluff.
Hm. Are you equally baffled by people who declare no smut? Or no lords and ladies?
People like different things.
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@Yam said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:
which is why I’m always baffled about why people declare no bar RP/no social fluff
They also baffle me, though I suspect for different reasons.
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@KarmaBum said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:
@Yam said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:
I definitely agree with this, which is why I’m always baffled about why people declare no bar RP/no social fluff.
Hm. Are you equally baffled by people who declare no smut? Or no lords and ladies?
Nope, that doesn’t confuse me at all. The subject matter there is crystal clear, whereas what counts as plot versus… well, anything else seems hard to pin down. What if the characters briefly talk about some vague plot related thing and then decide to go drinking? Like, I’m trying to figure out where the line is. What’s the threshold for the right amount of plot? I feel like I’m missing something.
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@Yam Interesting.
I guess it is just a matter of differing tastes. I used to enjoy random social interactions, but I do not anymore. They just do not entertain me, the same way that I am not entertained by Bridgerton or MMA.
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@KarmaBum said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:
They just do not entertain me, the same way that I am not entertained by Bridgerton or MMA.
My brain left out the or in this sentence the first time I read it, and I suddenly imagined an MMA promotion that forces its fighters to dress in Regency appropriate attire for their fights.
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@MisterBoring I truly did not ever expect circumstances to line up again to where I could share this, but here we are.
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@Wizz said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:
@Roz valid! some people just don’t like it, that’s absolutely fine. sorry if I made it seem like it wasn’t when I responded to you earlier, I was just trying to be a silly goose.
lmao not gonna lie, i don’t even remember what you replied to my first post. that was like. a week ago!!
i was just responding to the post i quoted. because i feel like it’s pretty relevant to acknowledge that people not liking async is usually because they simply — don’t like async. not because they just haven’t found the right async partner or instance.
@KarmaBum said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:
@Yam said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:
I definitely agree with this, which is why I’m always baffled about why people declare no bar RP/no social fluff.
Hm. Are you equally baffled by people who declare no smut? Or no lords and ladies?
People like different things.
lords and ladies is a specific genre, and smut is a very specific type of RP with pretty obvious reason why some people would choose not to partake.
social RP is literally just — the act of building relationships between characters. it is foundational enough to the development of characters that whenever people say they don’t like social RP, i honestly just assume it’s a matter of people defining things differently from each other.
ETA: i think that what people generally mean is that they don’t like RP that turns out to not be fun. which is universal. social RP can have a slightly higher hit or miss rate in terms of how fun the scene ends up being, and i do respect people saying they have less time to roll the dice on that. but every other type of RP is also hit or miss at varying levels.
i don’t actually believe anyone would eschew a social scene with a new character that turned out to have great chemistry and was an awesome time. i just don’t. because everyone loves fun, engaging RP. and social scenes can turn out to be literally anything.
what people don’t like is boring RP. which happens with every type of RP you can imagine. boring RP happens in plot, it happens in smut, it happens everywhere.
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@Roz said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:
i don’t actually believe anyone would eschew a social scene with a new character that turned out to have great chemistry and was an awesome time. i just don’t. because everyone loves fun, engaging RP. and social scenes can turn out to be literally anything.
Except there are some scene premises that are just inherently not fun for me so I would truly not have a good time and would not be engaged. Case in point: movie night scenes. I absolutely do not like scenes where we sit around with 20 other characters, or even 2 other characters, and pretend to watch a movie. It’s not fun for me, and has in fact on three occasions killed my enjoyment entirely for a game despite being in those scenes with people I have actually good chemistry with and enjoy roleplaying with.
This is one example but surely if you all need others to accept that we can all actually enjoy different things, I can keep going.
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@Roz said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:
i think that what people generally mean is that they don’t like RP that turns out to not be fun. which is universal.
I think that’s what people generally mean, yes.
I also agree that I do not like RP that turns out to be not fun.
@Roz said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:
i don’t actually believe anyone would eschew a social scene with a new character that turned out to have great chemistry and was an awesome time.
I’m fine if people don’t actually believe this.
Edit to fix quote issue.
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@bear_necessities said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:
@Roz said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:
i don’t actually believe anyone would eschew a social scene with a new character that turned out to have great chemistry and was an awesome time. i just don’t. because everyone loves fun, engaging RP. and social scenes can turn out to be literally anything.
Except there are some scene premises that are just inherently not fun for me so I would truly not have a good time and would not be engaged. Case in point: movie night scenes. I absolutely do not like scenes where we sit around with 20 other characters, or even 2 other characters, and pretend to watch a movie. It’s not fun for me, and has in fact on three occasions killed my enjoyment entirely for a game despite being in those scenes with people I have actually good chemistry with and enjoy roleplaying with.
This is one example but surely if you all need others to accept that we can all actually enjoy different things, I can keep going.
i mean…yes, sure, that is a very specific premise you don’t like. that is not the same as someone claiming they don’t like social RP across the board, considering that social RP would include a huge swathe of interactions. talking about very specific premises don’t actually run counter to my point at all.
@KarmaBum said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:
@Roz said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:
i don’t actually believe anyone would eschew a social scene
I’m fine if people don’t actually believe this.
lol you didn’t even quote my entire point???
my point is that sometimes a social scene is nothing but meaningless fluff. sometimes it is a scene where two characters hit it off in some fashion and end up having extremely meaningful interactions that build character connections and offer meaningful character development. both of these are social scenes. my point is that “social RP” encompasses a hell of a lot of stuff. it doesn’t stop being social RP when it turns out to be incredibly meaningful.
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@Roz said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:
lol you didn’t even quote my entire point???
Sorry, that’s more an issue of replying on my phone.
My entire point is just that I know what social RP is, I have enjoyed it in the past, I do not enjoy it anymore. I do enjoy many other types of RP.
Whether or not you believe that is irrelevant.
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@KarmaBum said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:
@Roz said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:
lol you didn’t even quote my entire point???
Sorry, that’s more an issue of replying on my phone.
My entire point is just that I know what social RP is, I have enjoyed it in the past, I do not enjoy it anymore. I do enjoy many other types of RP.
i’m actually curious what the list is! i mean that sincerely. because for me, the types of RP are pretty broad categories. like i think of social RP, and then plot RP, and i guess i can put smut/TS/whatevs is a category. but those are the big buckets for me that i can think of.
which comes back to my earlier point of “i think people are just arguing about different definitions”
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@bear_necessities idk why she needs you to speak for her but here we are
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@bear_necessities i’m trying to determine how people are defining things. my point with your example was just that it was a specific premise of social RP. i didn’t argue about people disliking very specific types of social RP. the same way people will dislike very specific types of plot.
i am asking what other types of RP she enjoys because i want to know how people are defining what is and isn’t social RP. i wasn’t asking what types of RP she dislikes, i’m asking what types of RP she likes. because i think for me and some others, social RP is largely the vast majority of RP that isn’t super directly plot RP. and if that’s not the case for others, then this is an argument about semantics. i’m asking what people think of as “types of RP” that aren’t plot and social. not specific scenarios, but overall types.
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I also don’t like movie night scenes but that’s just conceptual because it is inherently uninteractive to me to rp about watching a thing. RP that took place AFTER a movie night with a big dumb pillow fight or that interrupted a movie night with rocket launchers would be fine.
I can think of several ways to make mail sorting impactful or fun especially if there’s a war on.
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@sao said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:
that interrupted a movie night with rocket launchers would be fine.
That is not social RP to me. I would do that. So I guess there’s my definition
