Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo
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@Polk For me, at least, a character should be temporary - get in, tell their story, get out. Though, I’m also of the opinion that a game (and story) should have an end date in mind at its creation.
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Grogu being an FC is just hilariously silly to me.
I also like how Qi’ra has been doing stuff for 40 decades. FORTY DECADES. Like goddamn, how long do humans live in the Star Wars universe?
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@Rucket said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
Like goddamn, how long do humans live in the Star Wars universe?
The Force can do some funky shit.
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@Rucket said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
Grogu being an FC is just hilariously silly to me.
Grogu isn’t only playable, he’s probably FINALLY in his species’ teens, so if the disregard of other policies is any indication, cue inappropriate jail-bait music
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@Warlander To be fair, I think ONLY Ben was from a Ban. Which is interesting, and makes me wonder what Hadrix has on Cujo, given Ben was allowed to run the Sith, obviously, taking over from Banshee.
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Message: 21/224 Posted Author
Player Run Plots Jan 25 2023 MaelstromHey, all. We’ve got a solid month left before the time skip. We have a lot of exciting things coming down the pipeline both IC and OOC, but today I would like to draw your attention to player run plots. Rather self explanatory, these are plots run by you. They could be for your own personal storylines, cultural groups, or planets of choice.
Staff is willing to bankroll some of these plots to a certain extent; to provide IC reward based on the plot, the number of participants, and logs posted. These payouts can be divided however the GM sees fit.
25,000 - 1 event with 3 or more people in a wiki-posted log
65,000 - 2 events with 3 or more people in each log
100,000 - 3 events in a plot with 3+ people in each logHere are just a few examples of the kinds of plots you can run.
- Bounty hunters from the Guild take down a high-profile, dangerous target.
- A scrapping location on Jakku has collapsed and people are trapped inside.
- An rich collector wants an artifact and is willing to pay handsomely.
- Chandrilan survivors are intercepted by pirates and need rescued.
- A rival smuggling group needs to be dealt with.
You can come up with all kinds of arcs based on who your character is and what groups they are a part of. Pay out is negotiable if you have an idea that you get staff-approval from. We will also be open to players running plots regarding the war between the Rebels and the Sith when we get to that.
Expect the +help file for player run plots to be updated in the coming weeks to reflect this information. If you have any questions or plot ideas, submit a +request.
------------------------------< +bbread 21/224 >------------------------------Exhibit A, way too late. First time in 5 years they offer anything for running. Flashpoint? Ooops? Two events? Whoever runs first gets the money.
Anything else? Fuck you, pay out of your own pocket. They are desperate
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@Krautistanian said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
Exhibit A, way too late. First time in 5 years they offer anything for running. Flashpoint? Ooops? Two events? Whoever runs first gets the money.
Anything else? Fuck you, pay out of your own pocket. They are desperate
Pulling out all the stops to retain/bring in new players. Even though all these types of rewards were suggested a million times by people such as myself and others. Only to be ignored, brushed aside, or hee-hawed at.
Desperate is an appropriate term.
@CuriousGamer said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
Also looks like people are choosing to head out rather than deal with the drama/new theme.
I hadn’t logged in since I left and didn’t know these two had stood up. Good on Jax and Ax and I hope they stay far away from this sesspool and get to have fun without the anxiety AoA causes. I knew about Vega, we are friends, and had been discussing all the issues with the time skip for months before this thread hit. I suppose we kind of left together because she made her final choice when I hit my tipping point and told her I was done with Age of Kora.
Now Sumi, Hadrix, and Maelstrom are the only people who host events on the grid. Jax and to some degree myself were driving forces in the Jedi Order, especially Jax who ran plots for the group and its offshoot.
I’m sure Discordia will continue to have an alt in every sphere so she can pad her stats nom farming, having all the feats ever in existence, but never actually doing any story work herself.
Anyways, just wanted to say good on them.
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@SqeakyClean Yup. I left since I got like, 2 people to a plot, and eventually just competed with Had in the end. And then, when the Time Jump was announced, I lost all will to run. I am just there to watch the fire, though I suppose I’ll leave. Was a fun five years.
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@Krautistanian said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@SqeakyClean Yup. I left since I got like, 2 people to a plot, and eventually just competed with Had in the end. And then, when the Time Jump was announced, I lost all will to run. I am just there to watch the fire, though I suppose I’ll leave. Was a fun five years.
I had a bunch of stuff I wanted to do. Then the time jump was announced and some other things happened. So I was just like; nah screw this, and just stopped running stuff or having any will to. I was always running up against Hads stuff anyways like you were (which were org specific mind you… except for those select few people they decided to let come on the down-low). It felt like I was putting in the time and not getting anything out of it and that there was just one faction certain people really only cared about.
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@Krautistanian Hope you’re well. I remember you from Fallcoast.
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@Polk Oh, yeah. Annoyed MU* wise that I basically lost two places within the same week, but well.
If anyone cares, since the thread got posted there are four newbies, Kora, and… that’s it for active people. Something like 10 players left or were banned. So… net negative.
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But hey, who cares how many players you got as long as the ones you have are part of your harem, right?
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@Krautistanian said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
Something like 10 players left or were banned.
I can confirm that the number of people that left or were banned as a result of this is at least 27.
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This should be more than enough evidence for mu* staff to take this shit seriously. To take people’s desire to play in a healthy sandbox, where they are treated as human beings first, and WHO padding second, seriously.
As of a couple minutes ago aoa had roughly 26 actual players connected (actual players, not just alt count).
Star Wars MUSH had roughly 15 (again, actual players, not alt count).
This is WEEKS later, that this shift in games has been sustained. SW Mush is an ancient game with semi-functional systems and an antiquated grid. It’s an imperfect and troublesome site, from the point of view of it being a coded mush.
What it does have is a staff that has shown they actually give a shit, and understand what it means to caretake a community. AoA has lost about 40%, on average, of its players. And realistically about 75% of its active storytellers. All because its staff refused to take sexual harassment seriously.
SW1 deserves all the attention it is getting. A game’s coded systems don’t matter if that game’s culture is poisonous. And a game’s age and partial functioning can be forgiven if staff try their hardest to make it a welcoming place where people are treated well.
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@SpilledBeanz said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
Star Wars MUSH had roughly 15 (again, actual players, not alt count).
Jesus, that game’s still going??
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@Pavel said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
Jesus, that game’s still going??
This is my thought every time somebody posts how long these SW MUs have existed. Glimpse into a different world.
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@SqeakyClean said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
Pulling out all the stops to retain/bring in new players. Even though all these types of rewards were suggested a million times by people such as myself and others. Only to be ignored, brushed aside, or hee-hawed at.
Yes. Very much yes. For years now, even suggesting that plot-runners get something for their efforts, or suggesting rewards for players in plots (even just looting the bad guys), has been absolute heresy to Cujo. If you even thought anyone should be running events for anything other than the satisfaction of telling a good story (or just +noms from all attendees, like Aryn/Sumi/Poe and Hadrix/Reverberate), you deserved to be cast out into utter darkness, with all the weeping and gnashing of teeth.
How things change when people start abandoning your game because you actively support sex pests. Well, most sex pests.
@SqeakyClean said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
I was always running up against Hads stuff anyways like you were (which were org specific mind you… except for those select few people they decided to let come on the down-low).
While the sexual harassment thing going public is recent, Reverberate has been on staff for a few years now. One of his first actions as staff was to have some Hutt, who apparently ran the long-dead Hutt faction, ban the Array Consortium from Nar Shaddaa for not supporting the Hutts against their enemies (who were enemies for maybe 30 seconds).
The action was IC, but the IC reasons were pure bullshit. Supposely it was because the AC didn’t fire up their flagship (a Guardian-class light cruiser) and try to fight off an FO Star Destroyer that bombarded and destroyed Corestar Spaceport in the space equivalent of a drive-by shooting (yes, this actually happened: the First Order destroyed a starport to kill one smuggler, and in the end they didn’t even get him). The problems with this are that a) the Hutts were allies with the First Order at the time, despite how little sense that ever made ICly, b) the Hutts themselves never fired a shot at that same Star Destroyer despite having their own warship in orbit at the time, and c) this was years IRL after that ill-considered bombardment.
The real reason: The Array Consortium was competition for the Koras in signing on new PCs fresh out of chargen. New fish wouldn’t know about the Koras’ horrible reputation ICly or OOCly, and would be more likely to sign on with them and give them +noms for bad events (and possibly be harassed by Hadrix). Get the AC off Nar Shaddaa, they’re a lot less of competition.
I ran into Adhar Gann and his group several times, and they struck me as a good bunch. Adhar really gave a damn about his players and their characters and supported their efforts until RL landed on him, hard. Well, that and the vicious gossip Aryn and Hadrix were always spreading about him. OOC (and occasionally IC) backstabbing is something neither one has ever had a problem with, if you’re a bother for them in any way.
@SpilledBeanz said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
This should be more than enough evidence for mu* staff to take this shit seriously. To take people’s desire to play in a healthy sandbox, where they are treated as human beings first, and WHO padding second, seriously.
Evidence or no evidence, AoA’s staff will never take this seriously, aside from banning people who publicly speak up about it. The poisonous staff culture is too deep-set at this point. Even if it wasn’t, Cujo is far too self-absorbed to care what people think about the people who keep his WHO list stable. He’s put 20+ years of ego into AoA and it’s sticking around, no matter how bad it gets.
(EDIT: An adjustment to terminology.)
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While we’re on the subject of fine print:
@Krautistanian said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
Pay out is negotiable if you have an idea that you get staff-approval from.
Translation: You have to get approval from Cujo to run any scene for any payment. Anybody he doesn’t like, don’t bother. And even if you do get approval, that’s no guarantee of the payment you wanted, or payment at all.
@Krautistanian said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
First time in 5 years they offer anything for running.
Closer to six years. Shortly after the Episode VII reboot, they did offer stuff to players and GMs for events. This didn’t last beyond a couple months because it involved a lot of effort on staff’s part.
Also, the rewards generally weren’t worth it. I ran into a few players who did some scavenging on Jakku and dug up an old Imperial assault shuttle that took an engine hit and augered in before it could make its troop drop. Their net reward was one Tier 1-2 mod each and one nothing-special blaster pistol.
The shuttle in question carried a complement of pilot, copilot, and 12 Imperial Stormtroopers. Standard equipment for Stormies includes a relatively good set of armor, a utility belt full of fun toys, an E-11 rifle, and a blaster pistol as sidearm. Out of all that, you’d think at least one rifle and more than one pistol would’ve survived in working (or at least repairable) shape! But then again, Cujo didn’t like the player who ran the event. At least one group involved in a similar event received decent weapons for running and attending.
The player herself said frankly that she left because of constantly being treated like shit by staff, despite trying to encourage and provide activity on their game.
So… some things never change. Not until staff gets desperate. Even then, they’ll still treat non-pets like shit.
