Why is Pack closing?

[Tez]

@Cobalt said in Why is Pack closing?:

I really don’t want to get into the details publicly because the content was pretty triggering. I will say it involved what would have been rape and then extreme IC gaslighting in the follow up. On top of a bunch of OOC drama.

If any game runner wants to speak with me privately, I can share more details and discuss what I know of the people involved-- these are not people with ares handles linked.

In a word: holy fuck. Of course that’s the kind of person who wouldn’t link their ares handle, tho.

[tamecrow]

Thank you @Cobalt for the great stories and theme. I played on Pack and enjoyed my time, but when parts of the community become caustic and toxic it’s wise to step back.

Take good care of yourself and good luck with your RL move!

[Third Eye]

Ugh this sucks. It’s a game people really seemed to be responding to, but I definitely get opting out of the bullshit. The Worst people ruin things for everyone.

[SpaceKhomeini]

@Third-Eye said in Why is Pack closing?:

Ugh this sucks. It’s a game people really seemed to be responding to, but I definitely get opting out of the bullshit. The Worst people ruin things for everyone.

50% why I don’t run a game – I’d just get drunk and ban people in the night.

That’s not saying this is the proper solution or anyone (especially Cobalt and whoever was on the receiving end of these peoples’ shit) should have to put up with or deal with this. I just couldn’t have made it this far.

[Herja]

I really hate the people in this hobby that ruin shit for everyone. I’m also so sorry that you have had to deal with this situation. This is the part of staffing a game that can be absolutely soul crushing.

[KarmaBum]

Sorry this is how it turned out, @Cobalt. Hope you find someplace to play that you enjoy!

[Bessarion]

I know that the game attracted at least one known problem player from past WoD games and I’m pissed that people couldn’t just… not. It was a great game with a lot of potential.

[Cobalt]

@KarmaBum That is the thing that I think is the issue. It was too similar to a WoD theme. WoD itself attracts a lot of predatory people because it is a game about being predators.

[Gasboy]

@Cobalt That’s horrible. Always with the bad apples spoiling it for the rest of us.

[Testament]

@SpaceKhomeini said in Why is Pack closing?:

@Third-Eye said in Why is Pack closing?:

Ugh this sucks. It’s a game people really seemed to be responding to, but I definitely get opting out of the bullshit. The Worst people ruin things for everyone.

50% why I don’t run a game – I’d just get drunk and ban people in the night.

I mean, that’s more or less what I do.

[Bessarion]

@Testament I mean, it’s what I did with the one guy I’ve had to ban so far. He got a warning before I went to bed. I woke up to reported conversations that showed he had not even listened a little bit. YEET.

[KarmaBum]

@Cobalt I think you probably meant to @-someone else, but it is admittedly the reason I never pcreated there. I enjoyed the few times I know of that I played with you over the years, but I am always wary of shifter games in particular. Too many people in WoD took it to a gross, gross place.

[IoleRae]

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, I’m so sorry.

[Cobalt]

@KarmaBum said in Why is Pack closing?:

@Cobalt I think you probably meant to @-someone else, but it is admittedly the reason I never pcreated there. I enjoyed the few times I know of that I played with you over the years, but I am always wary of shifter games in particular. Too many people in WoD took it to a gross, gross place.

Whoops! Yeah, I meant to @ @Bessarion.

But, yeah. I love the shifter stuff, but I think the setting was just too close WoD. idk, something about the theme just…

[Pyrephox]

@Cobalt I think having the dom/sub theme that a lot of shifter games tend to have baked in can bring out a lot of the abusive assholes who want to let their inner controlling chucklefuck out while saying “it’s theme!” Both sexually, and just general posturing about how alpha they are.

It’s a real shame, because you make fun themes!

[GF]

@Cobalt said in Why is Pack closing?:

I love the shifter stuff, but I think the setting was just too close WoD.

I doubt it’s to do with the setting being close to any other setting. Weird little creeps will always feel compelled to turn their problems into your problems.

[Pax]

@GF Eh. I like WoD but it definitely brings out the weirdos. It’s usually the vampires being edgelords but say that too loudly and suddenly it’s a competition.

[Jennkryst]

Suddenly realizing that the ideal solution to dealing with problematic shifter people in WoD is the very thing every game has banned.

SnekMurderDeathKillSquad shows up and… MurderDeathKills the character who is a fucking problem.

Then they leave three sea shells behind as a warning to other would-be Creeps.

[sao]

Characters aren’t the problem.

[Wuff]

@Jennkryst said in Why is Pack closing?:

Then they leave three sea shells behind as a warning to other would-be Creeps.

Sadly, they’d just app new characters to creep with.