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    • FaradayF
      Faraday @Prospero
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      @Prospero said in Topic Deletion Query and Feedback:

      If the admin feel that a topic should not be allowed to be deleted (to hide dickery, or because there was robust and useful discussion that followed it) they can restore it without much problem or loss to the community.

      What would prompt this, though? Are they notified if it happens and will routinely review such threads? I think it’s a less-viable fallback if we have to just hope that someone is like: “Hey, where did that thread go… huh I wonder if the OP deleted it… maybe I should ask the admin”.

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      • PavelP
        Pavel @Prospero
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        @Prospero said in Topic Deletion Query and Feedback:

        If the admin feel that a topic should not be allowed to be deleted

        That’s not our call, though. Folks 'round here want light moderation/administration, so we opt to make fewer decisions requiring our opinion.

        Secondly, we generally don’t operate as individuals, with most decisions (I think all of them, but I’ll weasel just in case I’m wrong) requiring two of the three of us to agree. So in the time it takes for someone to notice a thread/topic is deleted, tell us, and for us to then meet to discuss whether it should be restored… that’s enough time for a conversation to die, or other threads to pop up talking about why it was deleted.

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        • RozR
          Roz
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          I voted No, mostly because I think people should be able to delete their own posts, including the starting post of a thread, but shouldn’t have the sole authority to delete the entire thread that follows it, as that is also, in essence, deleting the posts of other users on the board.

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          • KarmaBumK
            KarmaBum @Roz
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            what @Roz said

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            • helveticaH
              helvetica
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              I think that a topic being deleted is a reasonable outcome for us being little assholes to its original poster, and protecting those who responded to the thread by preserving their conversation is not where our energy should be going.

              ETA: I have no idea what went on in the conversation for the Magicians mu ad, I didn’t read it.

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              • PavelP
                Pavel @helvetica
                last edited by

                @helvetica said in Topic Deletion Query and Feedback:

                I think that a topic being deleted is a reasonable outcome for us being little assholes to its original poster, and protecting those who responded to the thread by preserving their conversation is not where our energy should be going.

                ETA: I have no idea what went on in the conversation for the Magicians mu ad, I didn’t read it.

                Once again, this is a general question about policy, not strictly about that one single thread in particular.

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                • helveticaH
                  helvetica @Pavel
                  last edited by

                  @Pavel Good, I didn’t read that thread so my response is a general one.

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                  • PavelP
                    Pavel @helvetica
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                    @helvetica said in Topic Deletion Query and Feedback:

                    @Pavel Good, I didn’t read that thread so my response is a general one.

                    So if I don’t get the answers I want here, I should feel empowered to just delete the thread and pretend it never happened? Hypothetically.

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                    • helveticaH
                      helvetica @Pavel
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                      @Pavel Well, now speaking specifically about any one thread in particular seems like a trap, but yes, I think you should be able to delete it even if you do receive the answers you want. So long as in doing so you are not concealing evidence of your own harmful or bad behavior, I don’t think it matters.

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                      • PavelP
                        Pavel @helvetica
                        last edited by

                        @helvetica said in Topic Deletion Query and Feedback:

                        @Pavel Well, now speaking specifically about any one thread in particular seems like a trap, but yes, I think you should be able to delete it even if you do receive the answers you want. So long as in doing so you are not concealing evidence of your own harmful or bad behavior, I don’t think it matters.

                        Not intended as a trap, I was just trying to split what you said from the other situation - since it seemed related even if you hadn’t intended it to be.

                        While I definitely disagree with your view, I’m glad you expressed it.

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                        • helveticaH
                          helvetica @Pavel
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                          @Pavel If I wanted to delete the pets thread because I decide hate pets now especially cute foster cats, I should be allowed to do that. And you all should be free to remember that I am the awful person who did that, and it can become part of my mythology.

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                          • RozR
                            Roz @helvetica
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                            @helvetica Disagree, those pets now belong to the COMMUNE, they are now COMMUNAL PETS

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                            • FaradayF
                              Faraday @Pavel
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                              @Pavel said in Topic Deletion Query and Feedback:

                              we opt to make fewer decisions requiring our opinion

                              Threads shouldn’t be deleted that often to begin with, so even a “deletion requires a request to admin” would not introduce a huge administrative burden.

                              You could even outline specific circumstances under which it’s allowed, or at least general guidelines… a thread with no posts? Sure. An ad? Sure, though split discussion to a different thread. Anything else? Probably no, but they could always petition.

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                              • PavelP
                                Pavel @Faraday
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                                @Faraday said in Topic Deletion Query and Feedback:

                                Threads shouldn’t be deleted that often to begin with, so even a “deletion requires a request to admin” would not introduce a huge administrative burden.

                                Agreed. I’d much rather err on the side of allowing more conversation than less, so if it takes us a few days to get to delete the thread, or whatever, that’s better to my mind than us taking a few days to undelete one.

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                                • helveticaH
                                  helvetica @Roz
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                                  @Roz No More Dicks, No More Pets

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                                  • juniperskyJ
                                    junipersky Administrators @helvetica
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                                    @helvetica

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                                    • PolkP
                                      Polk
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                                      My gut instinct would be to allow self deletions on a forum by forum basis, particularly in the Game Ads area.

                                      But upon reflection I’m against it, because I want you guys to get a chance to act on a toxic pile-on.

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                                      • PaxP
                                        Pax
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                                        I voted No because I want to see the drama and I want to occasionally dunk on people for acting like assholes. It’s not productive but I want what I want.

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                                        • Third EyeT
                                          Third Eye
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                                          I also think that, if someone REALLY regrets posting a topic, they can ask an admin to delete it. That plus the ability to delete our own individual posts makes me feel like it’s never really necessary for the OP to nuke an entire topic and cause confusion/wipe out other people’s posts as an insta-reaction.

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                                          • G
                                            GF
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                                            As someone who personally benefits from a record of my bad behavior so I can be held accountable, I would be miffed if someone deleted a thread of shit I deserve to be called out for; but that logic really only works if we assume these threads are property of everyone who posts in them, rather than belonging to the OP.

                                            (This assumes I’m correctly understanding the context of a deleted ad and a bunch of bad behavior that happened in it while I was at work. If I am misunderstanding the context, then disregard.)

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