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    AI In Poses

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    • TrashcanT
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      @Faraday
      This white paper, published by Originality.ai, which concluded that Originality.ai is the best checker, includes 6 studies in the chart your screenshots come from. 2 of those are from 2023. The newest is from June 2024. Since the article is marked November 2025, I have to question why nothing newer is included.

      If there is any takeaway from what I’ve argued in these threads, it is that specifics matter and none of this is static. That is why opposition to GenAI cannot be based on the quality of the experience, it must be based on the nature of the experience. “I don’t want to RP with GenAI because it’s not very good” is not going to age well as a position.

      he/him
      this machine kills fascists

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      • MisterBoringM
        MisterBoring @Trashcan
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        @Trashcan said in AI In Poses:

        “I don’t want to RP with GenAI because it’s not very good” is not going to age well as a position.

        I think the better position is “I don’t want to RP with GenAI because I’m here to RP with real people.”

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        • TezT
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          @MisterBoring I agree. I think that’s the only position that matters.

          Well, except maybe also ‘I don’t want to RP with AI, and it’s against the rules, so people using AI are breaking the rules, ban them.’

          she/they

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          • somasatoriS
            somasatori @Trashcan
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            @Trashcan said in AI In Poses:

            This white paper, published by Originality.ai, which concluded that Originality.ai is the best checker,

            while I’m not disputing that Originality.ai is good as I’ve never used it, this is the same vibe as “we have investigated ourselves and found that we’re the best”

            "And the Fool says, pointing to the invertebrate fauna feeding in the graves: 'Here a monarchy reigns, mightier than you: His Majesty the Worm.'"
            Italo Calvino, The Castle of Crossed Destines

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            • FaradayF
              Faraday @somasatori
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              @somasatori said in AI In Poses:

              while I’m not disputing that Originality.ai is good as I’ve never used it, this is the same vibe as “we have investigated ourselves and found that we’re the best”

              Good to be skeptical, but I don’t think it’s quite that bad. More like “5 out of 6 doctors agree!” advertising. It is a meta-analysis of studies that (as far as I can tell) were done by other people. There are still a host of potential biases in play. My general point was that even with all those potential biases, they’re still admitting that sometimes they’re only getting a “B”.

              @MisterBoring said in AI In Poses:

              “I don’t want to RP with GenAI because I’m here to RP with real people.”

              This. But also: “I think GenAI is terrible and I don’t want to have anything to do with it. I especially don’t want my poses fed into their plagiarism machine.”

              I don’t really care how good it is. Even if they fixed every single one of its flaws and it was a better RPer than everyone else I’d ever played with, I still wouldn’t want to play with someone using it.

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              • somasatoriS
                somasatori @Faraday
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                @Faraday said in AI In Poses:

                Good to be skeptical, but I don’t think it’s quite that bad. More like “5 out of 6 doctors agree!” advertising. It is a meta-analysis of studies that (as far as I can tell) were done by other people. There are still a host of potential biases in play. My general point was that even with all those potential biases, they’re still admitting that sometimes they’re only getting a “B”.

                Good call-out here! I am apparently in Reviewer #2 brain these days whenever I look at any research work. It’s great that they discussed their limitations and identified that there will still be some cases where they’ll miss the mark. I completely overlooked that part of your previous post!

                "And the Fool says, pointing to the invertebrate fauna feeding in the graves: 'Here a monarchy reigns, mightier than you: His Majesty the Worm.'"
                Italo Calvino, The Castle of Crossed Destines

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                • FaradayF
                  Faraday @somasatori
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                  @somasatori said in AI In Poses:

                  I am apparently in Reviewer #2 brain these days whenever I look at any research work.

                  I’m right there with you. I literally did a whole homeschool lesson with my kids on that whitepaper, showing how to think critically about the potential biases and how the company frames the results.

                  Anyway, I didn’t dive too deep into the underlying studies themselves, focusing on the meta-analysis part. @Trashcan was right to point out that some of them were pretty dated.

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                        a group of people standing around a long table with the words troll in the dungeon on the bottom

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                            wow wow
                            wonder where they are from? what happened in the mushing world

                            fr fr
                            (she/her)

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                                  @Lain-Iwakura You’re pretty behind the times, then. Plenty of MUDs still exist - you might find r/MUD more to your preferences. This forum doesn’t generally talk much about them because they’re different audiences and different design philosophies.

                                  But there’s plenty of discussion on r/MUD, and MUDs are still being made!

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                                    helvetica @hellfrog
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                                    @hellfrog said in AI In Poses:

                                    wow wow
                                    wonder where they are from? what happened in the mushing world

                                    I don’t want to ruin the plot of Serial Experiments Lain for you, but…

                                    Street Cred

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                                      • Third EyeT
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                                        @helvetica said in AI In Poses:

                                        @hellfrog said in AI In Poses:

                                        wow wow
                                        wonder where they are from? what happened in the mushing world

                                        I don’t want to ruin the plot of Serial Experiments Lain for you, but…

                                        My crystal ball is telling me they’re from a chan, of some sort. Perhaps a chan of 4s, if you will…

                                        I want something else to get me through this
                                        Semi-charmed kinda life, baby, baby
                                        I want something else, I'm not listening when you say good-bye

                                        She/Her or They/Them

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                                          • hellfrogH
                                            hellfrog @helvetica
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                                            @helvetica I watched serial experiments lain and even sitting through it couldn’t spoil the plot for me
                                            wtf did I watch

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