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@Pavel This is a new game. I’m not running shifter, vampire or channeling. Only mage, sorcerer, mortal and bygone, currently. Eventually I’ll allow demon. I realize my setting and theme are very unique as well. There are approved characters without wiki pages. There are pre-made that are approved but not all have wiki pages yet, and that system isn’t complete yet. But I am taking character applications and running plots. Official grand opening is Dec8th. I greet everyone who logs in when I’m watching the screen.
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@Pavel said in Ascension Sojourns:
I had a little peek in and the game doesn’t seem particularly active, and the wiki is almost entirely bereft of character pages.
Every game has to start somewhere…
I don’t know what makes some games open with 80 bajillion people immediately or why some start off very slowly. I would have thought a lot of people would have jumped on a new game with a completely different theme, but I guess I was wrong. Some people like the same old familiar settings.
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Also, it’s the week of American Thanksgiving. I’m sure that has a noticeable effect on activity.
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@Warma-Sheen usually they don’t open with that many but word gets out especially on a forum and then there’s a spigot of crazy activity that then falls off a cliff about 6ish weeks in when you get the real sense of the actual playerbase.
It’s probably helpful when things don’t happen like that.
Also helpful when the initial introduction isn’t by or involving someone who shuts down someone else’s game while in a rage/tantrum.
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@mietze said in Ascension Sojourns:
Also helpful when the initial introduction isn’t by or involving someone who shuts down someone else’s game while in a rage/tantrum.
I thought that might have something to do with it in this particular case, but I didn’t want to be the one to say it publicly here. I’m a bit biased on the subject.
And that sucks for the game. Even though he’s been banned, the damage may already have been done. But knowing they gave him the boot gives me that much more respect for the place and @sonata.
Moves like that deserve the support of the community.
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@Warma-Sheen To be clear. Most people shouldn’t and don’t care about that person. It would be foolish to solely blame him for less traffic so I wouldn’t wallow in that tbh. It’s just that tere’s nothing going on on the game and I think especially during a busy time people won’t rush to jump in without trying to find out more about the runner, what kind of scenes, ect. But as far as getting the bum rush that this forum can be famous for on a game it does help when one of the champions of it hasn’t in recent memory shown their whole ass. I’m sure that is why the game runner drew attention to the inevitable that this guy got banned for his typical behavior with less time to reach that decision than previous folks? But that’s just an indicator of a decent level of common sense not necessarily something that will make people rush to play.
A known problem person on staff will drive people away but their absence won’t cause an interest that wasn’t already there.
Also this is a one sphere niche game with an original setting. That also can take a bit to chew on. There’s nothing wrong with that, I personally adore those games and play on them often. I did check this place out but I don’t get excited about mage as a system/sphere and have had mostly meh experiences when giving it a chance elsewhere. But I do like the setting. Its probably not enough for me to give it a whirl, too much of a reach. But I am not the target or ideal participant for this place so no one should care/worry about that.
ETA: wasn’t the game runner that drew attention here but posting of the ban post by someone else. But still. People play on the same games as people they don’t like all the time and at least this staff didn’t hand him the keys when they heard something disconcerting and they also took action when the meltdown occurred that didn’t involve coddling. Its a point in their favor not because of the specific person involved but that they did it.
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Let me say, as a staffer, I don’t mind having a small game. I like telling stories for those that want to play in them. If the game is small I can be sure that every character gets the attention they deserve. People are free to rp among themselves between their weekly “table-top style” sessions meant to move plots forward.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a small game, and lack of character pages on a wiki doesn’t mean nothing is happening. Things are happening regularly with the players that log on. As someone previously mentioned it is American Thanksgiving weekend, scheduled scenes are skipping this week, to resume next week.
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@mietze said in Ascension Sojourns:
@Warma-Sheen To be clear. Most people shouldn’t and don’t care about that person. It would be foolish to solely blame him for less traffic
Eeeh, I dunno. I imagine that this can make considerable difference. Especially if the game is small. It’s quite possible to have a very fun and satisfying game with fewer than a dozen players. It can be pretty difficult to avoid one out of fewer than a dozen players. Especially if that player you want to avoid is skilled in superficial charm or does helpful shit that makes other players and staff want to show appreciation.
I hesitate to join games where I know I am probably going to have to deal with Cheaty-Cheaty Bang-Bang McManipulative Liar, especially if I suspect they have already got groupies there.
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I would be very hesitant to join any game he was involved with, because until he does what he inevitably does and gets banned, he is extremely good at getting his tentacles into everything.
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@Pacha I understand your concerns. I hope to alleviate them by letting you know that the involvement he had was minimal because the game was just launching. He wasn’t involved in any planning or staffing. Therefore his impact was minimal to the game. If you specific concerns or see something, I’m happy to address it with you. Just let me know.
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I know you said Demon eventually; does that include Possessed, and if not, how do you feel about them?
Mummy Pun? MUMMY PUN!
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@Jennkryst Are Possessed in WoD20?
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@Pavel said in Ascension Sojourns:
@Jennkryst Are Possessed in WoD20?
I don’t think they’re in WoD20, but they are in the oWoD. There was a book that covered them (titled Possessed) and it covered Fomori (Wyrm-possessed), Drones (Weave-possessed), Gorgons (Wyld-possessed), and Kami (Gaia-possessed).
In Occam I trust.
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@Pavel Depends on whether you’re talking about Demon’s version or Werewolf’s version. Werewolf Possessed (Fomori and the like) are in 20th. Demon itself is not in 20th officially, and so goes their possessed.
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@Coin Riiiight, I forgot they lumped all those together. The only Possessed I know anything about is the nWoD version.
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Yeah, they are in the Werewolf books, but since Mages work with Spirits, too, I thought it might work. Specifically, they are spread out in WW20, Book of the Wyrm, and Velvet Shadows.
If not, no biggie.
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The setting intrigues me, but the thing that’s stopping me from playing is Bygones as a playable character. I have had a couple of horror story moments way back in the day from games with Bygone PCs.
I’m not going into detail, but let’s just say that I never want to read the phrase “Unicorn Size Queen” ever again.
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@MisterBoring Its a Mage (for now) game. You think there’s much a player can do as a Bygone that can’t be done as a Mage with a few ranks of Life?
That was a player problem. Not a playable character problem.
But I’m sure you know that.
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@Warma-Sheen What the bygone can do that the mage seems less likely to do is spoil the vibe – compare ‘Size Queen Unicorn’ to ‘Size Queen Verbena’.
Seems to me it’s an approvals staff problem.
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I’ve seen them both. I’ve seen it all. I still recall one of the absolute worst things I saw at Metro where there was a (IIRC) Vodou Verbena-run strip joint on the grid and if this one-line concept sounds like a it was destined to go wrong eventually, you’re right.
Content Warning: Gross, tasteless, and unnecessary RP centered around traumatic pregnancy complications:
Some character involved in that whole scene, I cannot recall who they were or what their deal was, but the player decided to spontaneously suffer a miscarriage on the floor of a goddamn Mage-operated strip joint. The funny part: I seem to remember there being a Black Spiral Dancer Werewolf hanging out and she scooped up the discarded fetus in the middle of the drama and washed it down with her drink. That was the most logical response to this bullshit anyone could have come up with.Sooner or later there’s going to be someone trying to go there.
