Haven: The Safe Haven
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Is Haven an actual game?
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@Polk Buried somewhere at the bottom of the post at the top is this bit:
It’s got about 15 players at peak time right now so if you want to contribute to a game run by decent adults, hop over to Havenrpg.net on port 3000 where everyone treats you right, but your characters oh so wrong.
Haven’s a real experience of a place from tales I’ve heard.
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@Tez it’s full of real rp, with real adults who want to keep it real
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This is shocking behavior that to a lot of us has, unfortunately, become pretty commonplace. This player is unwell, and has been a massive thorn in the side of Haven’s community for over a decade. Engaging and spurring it on only makes it worse, unfortunately, I’ve seen this repeated literally dozens of times.
Haven is practically dead, it isn’t surprising seeing her moving on to new games. My genuine advice is don’t provoke her, handle her quietly when this happens, and move on.
Anything else, the only result will be more and more escalation.
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@Selira said in Haven: The Safe Haven:
This is shocking behavior that to a lot of us has, unfortunately, become pretty commonplace.
Eh, it’s not all that shocking. It’s a return to form for a lot of MUing history.
ETA: WORA was basically that, along with a feeling of ennui.
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Thanks. This explains a lot.
The embrace of Haven felt weird. It feels to me like this person is rushing to embrace Haven and being overly defensive of it. “They tolerate me (please keep tolerating me, Haven), and join me there, because this is the only place that tolerates me and gets me (looks how loyal I am, don’t ban me)”
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@Polk She’s made literally hundreds of characters on Haven that have been banned or shut down, and these posts have been made consistently about Haven staff on the forums over there – most have been deleted.
Just keep a heads up, everyone.
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@Selira I’m curious about why you haven’t outright banned the player completely. This kind of behaviour is completely unhinged, entitled, and EXHAUSTING.
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@Tez said in Haven: The Safe Haven:
@Polk Buried somewhere at the bottom of the post at the top is this bit:
It’s got about 15 players at peak time right now so if you want to contribute to a game run by decent adults, hop over to Havenrpg.net on port 3000 where everyone treats you right, but your characters oh so wrong.
Haven’s a real experience of a place from tales I’ve heard.
Back in the day, like 2014 era, Glitch and I were discussing building out a kind of fantasy airship game set around floating islands which I suggested calling “Haven” since that was going to be the name of the main floating island city. I had started writing up theme documents and whatnot describing the city of Haven, put Haven in the connect.txt, and he jumped in and was like “Uhhhh… Soma… there’s another game called Haven and I think this isn’t such a good idea.”
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@Tanvia Considering I don’t staff any games or boards, that would be difficullt. I know she’s been banned numerous times and simply uses VPN to frequently switch IP’s.
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@Tanvia it’s honestly really hard to ban people permanently, unless you are willing to ban entire geographical regions from connecting to your game.
Which is very telling, in a way. It would be no trouble at all for a banned person to slip back into a game, provided they could change their bad habits and not tell anyone/not pursue the same dramas and chars they got banned over.
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@Selira Ohhhhh I misunderstood. I thought you had some position of power there. Nevermind!
But if any of those staff see this… y’all should really just get rid of her. Because yikes.
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@Tanvia said in Haven: The Safe Haven:
@Selira Ohhhhh I misunderstood. I thought you had some position of power there. Nevermind!
But if any of those staff see this… y’all should really just get rid of her. Because yikes.
It sounds like they’ve tried? The point is that she keeps evading bans by using VPNs to mask her IP. So if she’s banned on one IP, she just gets another.
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@hellfrog i want you to know i see your trauma and acknowledge it.
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@hellfrog said in Haven: The Safe Haven:
Which is very telling, in a way. It would be no trouble at all for a banned person to slip back into a game, provided they could change their bad habits and not tell anyone/not pursue the same dramas and chars they got banned over.
Can confirm, have done it. I don’t advise it, but if you’ve made a genuine change or the behaviour isn’t usual for you then it’s relatively easily done.
