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MU Peeves Thread
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@junipersky Yep!
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Just a little grumbling, allow me to vent a bit.
I’m just tired and sad that since I’m not in the same timezone as most MUers, it really impacts on my ability to enjoy my hobby because no-one is around. I enjoy the collaborative, interactive nature of MUing. I like how anonymous and throwaway MU*ing is.
I understand, I have a job like most people and I’m only around in the evening too. No-one I know rl wants to MU* so I can’t recruit people who are available when I’m available.
I am proactive - I run prps, I try to make rp links and throw out rp hooks. It just bums me out that there is rarely anyone around to do the things I have planned with. I try to set things up only for them to fizzle out or never get off the ground because I can’t schedule with other players.
I can’t get involved in prps or MU* plot because I’m not around when prps or staff run plots take place. I’d love to make certain character types, but since the group I’d be involved with aren’t on when I’m on, there would be no point. At times I just wonder why I bother with my hobby at all. I really don’t know what the solution is. I don’t think there’s any sci-fi Ares-style MU*s that support async rp?
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@oknow have you tried The Network or Keys? Both of those seem to support async rp.
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@oknow I feel this one a lot. I personally blame my timezone as the #1 reason for drifting away from games as it can become very hard to actually play at my own best times to be available for it.
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We need to make a game oriented around an inconvenient-to-Americans timezone.
He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.
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Keys main (@L-B-Heuschkel one of the mains?) Admin is on the other side of the world from America!
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@junipersky Yeah. But I want my own game, with blackjack and hookers. And tinnies, and speedos, and snags on the barbie outside Bunnings.
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@oknow if it helps, it’s not a choice, and it’s a bummer here, too. i wish i could host stuff for people on alt time zones.
+1 maybe Keys? Sci-fi adjacent? (nb: don’t play there, just voyeur)
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@Pavel Back in the day there was a WoD MU* set in Liverpool run by a couple who live in the UK (Liverpool, I think?) but it fizzled out.
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@Livia It’s the main reason I give up too.
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@bear_necessities @KarmaBum I’ll check it out.
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@Pavel said in MU Peeves Thread:
@junipersky Yeah. But I want my own game, with blackjack and hookers. And tinnies, and speedos, and snags on the barbie outside Bunnings.
Me, going ‘WTF ARE TINNIES?!’ and madly Googling only to find out there’s nothing scandalous there at all.
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@junipersky said in MU Peeves Thread:
Keys main (@L-B-Heuschkel one of the mains?) Admin is on the other side of the world from America!
Is troo. I’m in Denmark (GMT +1).
As for main, we are a triumvirate. XD
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@oknow said in MU Peeves Thread:
Just a little grumbling, allow me to vent a bit.
I’m just tired and sad that since I’m not in the same timezone as most MUers, it really impacts on my ability to enjoy my hobby because no-one is around. I enjoy the collaborative, interactive nature of MUing. I like how anonymous and throwaway MU*ing is.
I understand, I have a job like most people and I’m only around in the evening too. No-one I know rl wants to MU* so I can’t recruit people who are available when I’m available.
I am proactive - I run prps, I try to make rp links and throw out rp hooks. It just bums me out that there is rarely anyone around to do the things I have planned with. I try to set things up only for them to fizzle out or never get off the ground because I can’t schedule with other players.
I can’t get involved in prps or MU* plot because I’m not around when prps or staff run plots take place. I’d love to make certain character types, but since the group I’d be involved with aren’t on when I’m on, there would be no point. At times I just wonder why I bother with my hobby at all. I really don’t know what the solution is. I don’t think there’s any sci-fi Ares-style MU*s that support async rp?
I fully relate to this peeve.
For my part, I’ve come to embrace it. It limits my participation to an extent, but that’s not always a bad thing. I tend to prefer having just a small group of friends on any game instead of feeling torn in every direction.
I’m also a proactive player and there are some pitfalls to that; it’s too easy for me to overextend myself, which ultimately leads to burnout and anxiety about letting people down. And I don’t always have a good time in big party scenes, anyway; it’s often FOMO or a misplaced sense of obligation that compels me to attend the chaos. So being mainly around when it’s quieter, limiting the problem of choice and letting go of a compulsion to jump on everything on offer, helps me.
I don’t mind that there’s extended downtime, either. I tend to multitask while logged in, so if the RP’s slow I can dedicate more time to productive tasks that day instead; no big loss. Alternatively, I can use that time to take care of the “homework” chores of any writing game: the writeups, the wiki edits, the vignettes, the world-building etc.
It’s a more casual approach to the game, but it suits me these days.
One thing I’ll say that I have absolutely zero tolerance for: 90% of events on any game are scheduled at a time that doesn’t suit me. That’s fine, you made it so you get to set the terms. But if I make my own events to try and correct that imbalance for others in timezones compatible to me, I think it’s really very rude for Americans to put up a stink about it. I mean sometimes it’s just a relatable, ‘Aww, I would love to go but I’ll be working.’ Sometimes I can even adjust an hour or two! But when they actively complain about feeling left out or excluded or act like I’m being inconsiderate by creating the 10% of events they can’t go to?
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@Kestrel Oh that is just not on. I’ve never fortunately had anyone kick up a stink about events not being at a convenient time. I’d find it hard not to tell them to get in the sea with that attitude.
I did, hoever, have a long “bUt WHy??? Why not just organise PRPs!?” conversation with someone (not staff) who was US-based when I mooted an org for Euro/daytime USA folks to help us find each other more easily. I was a bit flummoxed by the reaction.
One good thing about being on the wrong timezone for most activity is that I’m never important or available enough for the OOC drama llamas to pay attention to me.
I usually find a core group of 3-6 people who are available when I am. Unfortunately my current one has just lost most people to RL so I’m back to trying to hustle for rp again.
That said, I usually manage to find a couple of people who are available when I am who are generous RPers and for that I’m always grateful.
I hear you with feeling anxious about over extending. I’ve done that currently.
I also get really anxious about asking for prps to be run at my time. I worry that I’m coming across as entitled or something.
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@oknow Somebody already pitched Keys to you so I’m not going to do that. All I’m going to say is that with Ares, running scenes across timezones has become extremely easy compared to how it used to be. So really, for anyone who doesn’t struggle with keeping focus, asynchronous play solves the timezone issue to a large extent.
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@L-B-Heuschkel I hope the new SW game that was mentioned is on Ares…
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@L-B-Heuschkel I really like the fact that you can be apart of scenes from the website on Ares games.
…I just always forget to pose. Until someone reminds me.
