Suspected Superhero Creeping Or Something

[sao]

I also dislike Lithium and all of my memories of my experiences with them are bad and I think it’s fine to defend themselves from being compared with DWOPP.

And I also read the pages and I don’t think Warren comes off as the asshole in that convo at all. And I was very prepared to believe they would, because I remember the bone-deep relief I felt when Lithium was banned from Arx (sorry, Arx out of season, I accept the penalty).

I also think it’s not a good look to decide to publicly compare someone you’re in an OOC/IC tiff with to DWOPP.

But I remain firm in my original belief that more gamerunners should look at drama between multiple players that they don’t wanna deal with and just go “bye” like this.

[Testament]

@Pavel

[Pavel]

@IoleRae

[IoleRae]

@Pavel

[Snackness]

I just wanted everyone to be on the lookout for DWOPP. Because if he’s not playing now (and I would bet that he is), he will be.

That’s still what I want.

And since I am reverting to my Hog Pit behavior of making graphics that only I think are funny, I think it’s time for me to ignore this thread.

[sao]

@Snackness i also thought it was funny ftr

[Tez]

@Snackness

Thank you for your service.

[Testament]

@sao said in DWOPP-spotting:

And I also read the pages and I don’t think Warren comes off as the asshole in that convo at all. And I was very prepared to believe they would, because I remember the bone-deep relief I felt when Lithium was banned from Arx (sorry, Arx out of season, I accept the penalty).

[Pavel]

In the future, unless and until one actually has the facts to support one’s arguments, don’t accuse someone of being such a vigorously hated figure. @Snackness isn’t at fault, in my view, as they were simply passing the message along.

Accusing someone of being such a predator is worthy of a little extra pause before you lay down the name. Issue a warning about a creeper, by all means, but don’t instantly assume creeper=this specific predator if you don’t have any supporting evidence.

It’s basic sense, and you’re all supposed to be adults.

[Tez]

@Pavel said in DWOPP-spotting:

@Snackness isn’t at fault, in my view, as they were simply passing the message along.

Totally agree. I appreciate the reblog. So to speak.

[GF]

@IoleRae said in DWOPP-spotting:

Yes. It has been established explicitly that they are not. That does not in any way, shape, or form mean that the accusation wasn’t made, or that it removes the right of that person to talk about it.

I agree with this. I suppose where I’m disconnected from you is, I do not think Lithium is DWOPP or that anyone should think he is. I consider that matter settled, to a degree that it kind of confuses me anyone could still think that’s the issue at play here rather than how he has treated multiple people (I thought I only knew four, but more have come out of the woodwork to tell me their stories in the last few hours).

That is the lens I am viewing this conflict through. To me, this has nothing to do with mistaken identity. To me, it’s about his defense echoing the behaviors that got people thinking in the first place he would not be safe to be around. Do you disagree?

[sao]

also, I swear I remember Lithium being not a male identifying person, I apologize if that’s not correct, but please let’s not misgender people while we are talking about ways they may or may not be shitty

[Coin]

@Runescryer said in DWOPP-spotting:

@Coin Pattern Recognition is kind of speculation. I don’t need to know that the 18-wheeler a few cars ahead of me slamming on it’s brakes is going to crash before swerving to avoid something that might not happen.

And, yes. It’s because it was speculation that I didn’t mention names or locations as of yet. I was giving a general warning, specifically for a possible DWOPP return, but also as a general ‘watch your games because we’ve got an active creeper’. ZG stepped forward with the identity of the game; Lithium outed themselves when nobody was directly accusing him. I feel confident in trying to maintain as much annominity of those involved as possible. If Lithium hadn’t made his public protest, I would have accepted the results of ZG’s investigation and said “The person in question isn’t DWOPP, but is still showing signs of toxic behavior,” and kept the general warning.

Trying to paint Lithium owning up to being the person your speculating was about as a bad thing is pretty hilarious, man. In any actual rationale, it’s a good thing and a mark in their favor (evidenced by both Roz and IoleRae pointing out they don’t like Lithium but that Lithium doesn’t look all that bad in all this).

Just as an aside, because I went to look, because it’s my home office day and I’m fucking bored,

This is probably what Warren was referring to when he said ‘bragging about banging Tony’ (I assume Jean told him about this conversation, I dunno, broken telephone is a staple of MU life).

Just as an aside, I’m been informed that the ‘old modeling friend’ of Betsy’s was Pepper Potts, which would be just fine. Except both Betsy and Pepper were played by Macha. She set herself up for a blind date with her boss.

LOL. I don’t even care, don’t even think it’s ‘unethical’ or anything, I just find it funny.

[IoleRae]

In case I was unclear in my shit losing (it may have happened on occasion), I do not at all object to Snackness boosting/posting here. I don’t think that was problematic in the slightest. I think it was great and valuable and anyone thinking of doing a thing like that next time should 100% do it.

[Testament]

@Pavel said in DWOPP-spotting:

It’s basic sense, and you’re all supposed to be adults.

Hey now, that’s assuming a lot here.

[tsar]

@Coin said in DWOPP-spotting:

Just as an aside, I’m been informed that the ‘old modeling friend’ of Betsy’s was Pepper Potts, which would be just fine. Except both Betsy and Pepper were played by Macha. She set herself up for a blind date with her boss.

Ooof.

[Pavel]

@Coin said in DWOPP-spotting:

I don’t even care, don’t even think it’s ‘unethical’ or anything

I do. I fucking hate alt-crossing more than political conversations.

[GF]

@IoleRae said in DWOPP-spotting:

In case I was unclear in my shit losing (it may have happened on occasion), I do not at all object to Snackness boosting/posting here. I don’t think that was problematic in the slightest. I think it was great and valuable and anyone thinking of doing a thing like that next time should 100% do it.

I think that was all very clear. If I am reading you right, you’re angry about the injustice of seeing someone bullied into accepting responsibility for a crime they didn’t commit: being DWOPP.

[Coin]

@Pavel said in DWOPP-spotting:

@Coin said in DWOPP-spotting:

I don’t even care, don’t even think it’s ‘unethical’ or anything

I do. I fucking hate alt-crossing more than political conversations.

I mean, I get it. I just started in a different culture where that sort of thing was okay because it was transparent and part of the way everyone told cohesive, joint stories.

It’s a preference, and a hill I don’t particularly feel the need to die on.

[tsar]

I guess it depends on the context for me. If it’s harmless fluff, it’s fine. Whatever.

If it’s someone trying to set my PC up with another PC and I find out that someone is playing both characters, oof. Or I find out they’re trying to engineer a situation where they’re manipulating me for their alt’s benefit at all without telling me, oof.