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MU Peeves Thread
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Self peeve after the posts from earlier this week in this thread. As a GM, I’m often asked to do plenty of one-on-one scenes, largely because I have an entire Excel file dedicated to every character’s personal plot and I enjoy doing those kind of things. So pretty often I’m in a couple of private scenes at a time, be it on my staff bit or an NPC.
And now I look at the active scenes on my game and I get mildly self-conscious, as I have little desire to drive potential players away because of how the scene lists look.
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@Testament said in MU Peeves Thread:
And now I look at the active scenes on my game and I get mildly self-conscious, as I have little desire to drive potential players away because of how the scene lists look.
Hi, I’m back. Are you having fun? Does your playerbase seem happy, drama-free-ish, and active by what you’d consider active?
Don’t let brain weasels weasel their way in.
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@Testament Honestly, never worry about running one-on-one scenes for PCs as a staff member. That’s amazing! Keep it up!
And just because people have peeves, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a dealbreaker for them. I actually enjoy seeing all the active scenes, even the ones I’m not in and couldn’t join if I wanted to, because I know I might get some fun-to-read logs out of it, and when other people are RPing, then sometimes it means I get cool scenes that touch on those things, and then I feel like a part of a truly overarching narrative.
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@tsar Oh I’m overthinking it, I’ll make no allusions about it. I admit I’m not the biggest fan of seeing a large number of private scenes, because there is a perspective that it might be exclusionary.
That said, the reason why I have all of my one on one staff based scenes is usually because it relates to a character’s personal story, and it’s up to the player if and when they want to reveal anything publicly.
There a lot of these scenes I have in my unshared scene section and I’m hoping that, eventually, I’ll be able to share them openly with players that are okay with me doing so.
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I had no feelings about seeing the private scene lists in Ares until I was on a game where I felt pretty sure a couple of people were trying to make me uncomfortable. Then, seeing them in 90% of the scenes on the game went a good way towards that goal, because I sure did feel there was probably no escape.
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@hellfrog Word, I have quietly left a new game after experiencing someone who made me uncomfortable dominating the public Ares scenes list. That’s def been a benefit.
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When I was playing ‘public scenes viewable over the web’ weren’t a thing, since the feature didn’t exist yet or was barely in its infancy. At best it was logs people posted on wikis.
What is the actual issue? I.e. how is it abused?
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@Arkandel Private scenes and their participants are viewable even if the content is not; public scenes are viewable with an option to observe progress in real-time. The former can contribute to feelings of being excluded. I wouldn’t characterize that, in itself, as abuse.
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@helvetica said in MU Peeves Thread:
@hellfrog Word, I have quietly left a new game after experiencing someone who made me uncomfortable dominating the public Ares scenes list. That’s def been a benefit.
It should go without saying, but. If that has ever happened to anyone on my game, I’d definitely want to hear about it.
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@Arkandel said in MU Peeves Thread:
What is the actual issue? I.e. how is it abused?
Ares allows you to set a scene Private. It still shows up on the list of scenes with a high-level overview of who is in the scene (roughly the same info you could glean from +where).
Random sample from Keys:
Click on that as a non-member of the scene, and you will get a notice saying the scene is private and you need an invitation to join it.
Private scenes are the “normal” way to RP in Ares. Go to Network right now, and there are 44 scenes, 43 are private, 35ish of them are 1+1. And this is pretty standard. Elseverse has 6 scenes, all 6 private; Keys has 52 scenes, 48 of them are private.
So it’s not being abused. It’s not even really an issue.
It is…
wait for it
…just a peeve.
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Me: Oh my god you little shit, just finish the application. FINISH IT. SO CLOSE. ALMOST THERE.
Me (in response):
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@Wizz That’s me with the assessment I’ve got due tomorrow. >_>
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@KarmaBum said in MU Peeves Thread:
@Arkandel said in MU Peeves Thread:
What is the actual issue? I.e. how is it abused?
Ares allows you to set a scene Private. It still shows up on the list of scenes with a high-level overview of who is in the scene (roughly the same info you could glean from +where).
Random sample from Keys:
Click on that as a non-member of the scene, and you will get a notice saying the scene is private and you need an invitation to join it.
Private scenes are the “normal” way to RP in Ares. Go to Network right now, and there are 44 scenes, 43 are private, 35ish of them are 1+1. And this is pretty standard. Elseverse has 6 scenes, all 6 private; Keys has 52 scenes, 48 of them are private.
So it’s not being abused. It’s not even really an issue.
It is…
wait for it
…just a peeve.
Ares has evolved its own culture, and it can be a shock to run into it!
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@KarmaBum said in MU Peeves Thread:
@Arkandel said in MU Peeves Thread:
What is the actual issue? I.e. how is it abused?
Ares allows you to set a scene Private. It still shows up on the list of scenes with a high-level overview of who is in the scene (roughly the same info you could glean from +where).
Random sample from Keys:
Click on that as a non-member of the scene, and you will get a notice saying the scene is private and you need an invitation to join it.
Private scenes are the “normal” way to RP in Ares. Go to Network right now, and there are 44 scenes, 43 are private, 35ish of them are 1+1. And this is pretty standard. Elseverse has 6 scenes, all 6 private; Keys has 52 scenes, 48 of them are private.
So it’s not being abused. It’s not even really an issue.
It is…
wait for it
…just a peeve.
I’m confused how it could even be construed as being abused? I guess it goes back to the old argument about how people get rp. If you don’t like harvesting rp by asking people on Chan, most area games aren’t going to work out for you. It’s not really abusive, it’s just as you said…
A peeve
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I’m comfortable making roster pcs my own honestly so I wouldn’t in theory mind taking on a comic character and might actually prefer it bc I could read up on it.
However I wouldn’t play on one of those games. Because as many times as I have had my ass chewed up in an unfun way (and incorrect too!) about stupid shit like titles on Arx, WoD OMG U PLAY IT RONG!!!, Well MY 3 PhDs in ancient history tell me that you are totally incorrect in how you are playing your Fading Suns noble PC, hi I’m a 4 star general special forces bronco buster biker ph.d candidate so trust me i know more than you how you should play your military pc on a Battlestar game ect…I mean all those are places where it’s dumb and irrelevant to flex like that.
But like I also know fandom and the last thing I want is somebody up my ass so far I might as well be a costume about a comic character that I know has extensive history and crap that I don’t want to deal with people getting massively triggered by. For the same reason I stay away from mushes set in highly popular worlds. No Harry Potter, no GoT, I did try a buffy game event though I hate the TV show but
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@mietze said in MU Peeves Thread:
But like I also know fandom and the last thing I want is somebody up my ass so far I might as well be a costume about a comic character that I know has extensive history and crap that I don’t want to deal with people getting massively triggered by.
Honestly, in my experience the ratio of obnoxious know-it-all dipshits coming at you directly over something was about the same as anywhere else you mentioned, and they really spent most of their time on long pointless arguments with each other on easily ignored channels instead.
Most superhero MU people seem to share the unspoken understanding that like, actually playing a character 100% accurate to their 80+ year comic history is a bugfuck insane proposition and everyone is just playing their favorite interpretation anyway, if not picking up someone they actually know very little about just for the fun of it. There is an expectation that you don’t take a well-known character entirely off the rails, I guess, but all instances of not knowing some obscure history that I ever personally saw were just handwaved away.
YMMV, but I never felt like someone was going to skin suit me, lol. They’re popular and enduring games for a reason.
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Every few days I wake up feeling creatively inspired and motivated to start something new. Roll up a new concept, join a new game/community, maybe even start my own game. The ideas and plans really turn into these full-fledged beings and worlds just begging to be written. Sometimes I even reach out to friends on Discord and let them know that I’m warming up to dive back into MU*dom or that I want to embark on an ambitious project.
Unfortunately, then I look at the date and realise I’m already late to meet RL deadlines. In the background, my mysteriously athletic Siberian Husky (seriously, how and when did my pandemic puppy get this buff?) makes her stance clear that if I’m awake enough to be sitting at my laptop, I am definitely awake enough to be giving her the first of 2-3 hours of exercise she’s owed, and no amount of focus will be permitted today until she’s been tired into a coma. And so the muse continuously dies unspent.
I miss escapism and creative writing.
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That constant feel that no one wants to RP with you, but knowing that nearly everyone feels that way about everyone. And seeing the cycle that kills any RP
Except those times you know for cetain it’s really you.
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When you finally screw up the courage to reach out to someone about RPing with them, and they’re like “Sure that’d be awesome” and you set it up for the next day because just reaching out took so much of your mental fortitude and you need to recharge before you actually do the RP. And then the next day comes and you page them and get no response. And your anxiety and insecurity just immediately kicks in full force and convinces you that nobody gives a shit about you or your character or wants you around. And so after waiting a few hours with no response despite the person talking actively on a shared channel, you quietly log out and don’t log back in for over a year.
It’s been a year, you’re not logging in to play, mostly just to say Merry Christmas to someone. You start reading through all the bulletin board posts that you’ve missed.
You read a post by someone dated like a month after you last logged in mentioning that they struggle with anxiety so if they seem like they’re uninterested or they aren’t reaching out it’s not because they don’t want to RP, and then that one person who never responded to you has replied to the post like ‘Same >_<’. And you get a sinking feeling in your stomach. And you keep going through the BB posts and that person who never responded has made a post 2 months later explaining they’re going on hiatus and dropping their characters because their anxiety has made it almost impossible for them get RP and play.
And you sit there feeling bad because maybe if you’d had the confidence to at least just page them a second time to make sure they hadn’t just missed the first one then maybe they’d have had someone else to RP with and not felt so isolated.
And then you feel even worse because you realize that even with the knowledge that other people are going through the exact same struggle and all you need to do is reach out, nothing will change because your anxiety doesn’t care about logic and it’s always just going to assume the worst and you’re never gonna get to enjoy this hobby that always gets you so excited when making a character because your brain is a jerk that hates you.
That’s like, I dunno, a peeve or something I guess.
