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Suspected Superhero Creeping Or Something
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@Runescryer You made a number of declarative statements about the identity of the person, about their behavior in this regards, and about the evidence you said you had.
It was all bullshit, you’re being called out on that, and you’re digging in and like –
Man, I already told you this once before, but I’m not fucking stupid, dude.
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@Selira said in DWOPP-spotting:
Man, I already told you this once before, but I’m not fucking stupid, dude.
NONE of us are this fucking stupid.
the entity previously known as Sunny
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@IoleRae said in DWOPP-spotting:
@Selira said in DWOPP-spotting:
Man, I already told you this once before, but I’m not fucking stupid, dude.
NONE of us are this fucking stupid.
I don’t even think he’s this fucking stupid, at least, not if he were on this side of this whole thing.
Atomic yikes, y’all.
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@Selira said in DWOPP-spotting:
@Runescryer You made a number of declarative statements about the identity of the person, about their behavior in this regards, and about the evidence you said you had.
It was all bullshit, you’re being called out on that, and you’re digging in and like –
Man, I already told you this once before, but I’m not fucking stupid, dude.
@Runescryer was the same person who did the thing with mysterious DMs about some people and they brought them up but then wouldn’t confirm as acting sly until they were pressed and pressed and pressed and finally was like okay fine?
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for what it’s worth, which isn’t that much, my limited interaction with Lithium was that they were enthusiastic and helpful and that most of the people I’m friendly with there spoke well of them until suddenly people thought they were DWOPP
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@tsar sure was!
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@Pavel said in DWOPP-spotting:
This isn’t a court room, and you’re not a lawyer - not here anyway.
They can’t possibly be a lawyer, they are showing emotion, and we all know lawyers are emotionless robots fuelled with rationality. Meep morp.
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imagine being on a game with macha
my stomach just turned
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@hellfrog where does she even find the time to game between her life constantly spiraling out of control and everything always going wrong???
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@hellfrog said in DWOPP-spotting:
imagine being on a game with macha
my stomach just turned
I don’t have to imagine it. I staffed on one. She was always involved in all the drama and if it didn’t initially involve her, she inserted herself into it.
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@TNP Was it Portland?
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@Taika Empire State Heroes.
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@Runescryer said in DWOPP-spotting:
Or would you rather that everyone just stay silent and ignore the potential of someone acting sus and letting them keep doing what they’re doing?
I would not rather this.
For what it’s worth, @Runescryer, I believe you, and appreciate you expressing your discomfort and outlining your experiences to the community at large.
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@Kestrel where was the outline of his experience, though? like, maybe i am missing it but like-- i don’t see any actual posts about the behaviors that were seen. what toxic behavior?
i guess i vaguely remember allusions to his character buying things for other people with fake IC money. if that’s a toxic behavior, well, i guess i am toxic too. i once had a character donate six-figures to a charity in tez’s character’s name. also my character had a castle.
ETA: i am just not giving someone credit for coming and saying ‘this person might be DWOPP’ without even writing out the toxic behaviors that they were exhibiting. you don’t get credit for saying ‘hey there’s possibly charles manson at that party’, without even expressing all of the reasons to be concerned about possible charles manson, like you noticed he was carrying around a knife and high on drugs, or something.
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@Runescryer said in DWOPP-spotting:
All of this behavior from you started when Betsy spurned your advances in RP; the billionaire pissing contest, the whispers about Betsy in the X-Sphere, the sudden idea of creating the Champions.
@Runescryer detailed their experiences in the post linked above, and a few others have gone to some lengths trying to pick apart @Lithium’s approach to in-game flirting over on the MSB thread.
I don’t really want to do that, because I think I’ll feel a bit like trying to explain to people how your friend Rob Zombie really meant to say the word “bitch”, in an anecdote you gave a while ago. It’s often difficult enough for people to specify exactly how someone has made them uncomfortable, and it would be doubly hard for me to try and do so on their behalf as a third-party observer.
Instead, I would like to summarise the following sentiments I’ve seen expressed on this topic so far:
- Lithium is not DWOPP
- Runescryer is kind of a jerk
- Lithium is kind of a creep
And I would like to note that although they’re being expressed by opposing “teams”, so to speak, none of these sentiments are, in fact, mutually exclusive.
This isn’t to say that the people who deem there to be more evidence for #1 & #2 are wrong to rule out #3 on that basis; my own personal biases lead me to more willingly accept it, and that’s often all anyone has to go on outside of a courtroom setting.
I think that @Runescryer’s choice to try and state their case on a board they knew in advance would be less likely to believe them, and more likely to be hostile to them, shows a modicum of integrity; it gets some credit from me. I also think that while accusing someone of being Charles Manson is a bit mean, it’s probably less mean and considerably more understandable if they were covered in blood and brandishing a knife at you. I don’t really care about defending people over mistaken identity hurt if they were exhibiting behaviours which would reasonably lead someone to suspect it to be the case.
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@Kestrel said in DWOPP-spotting:
And I would like to note that although they’re being expressed by opposing “teams”, so to speak, none of these sentiments are, in fact, mutually exclusive.
I absolutely believe this. I don’t think they are mutually exclusive, and I have heard from many people that I know and trust that Lithium is a creep.
After I posted this, people pointed out the Jean/Warren scene as the primary example of this behavior, and I admit, I had skimmed over that and hadn’t really read it while focusing on other things. That is my bad, and that scene does show some bad behavior. I do wish we had more examples like that, especially with Lithium claiming that it was asked for by Jean.
(Which, I do not believe. I don’t believe someone speaking for someone else like that, because it could have just as easily been something like Lithium bugging OOCly about shipping their characters and Jean just finally going ‘well, flirt more IC! We’ll see how it goes!’ to let them down easy.)
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The Jean scene was very reminiscent of my own experiences, and I can also personally back up the claim of “gaslighting people after IC rejection” being a thing.
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I tried to make an account on the other forum where my rp was posted up, but it wouldn’t let me make one.
I am the Jean in that scene, and I just wanted to come here and say that I didn’t have a problem with Warren-player during the short time that they were on Infinite Adventures.
I did not feel gaslit by things that happened because the player of Warren reached out to discuss things in advance. Any time I said I was not comfortable about something they ceased immediately. Context is important, I was playing a very awkward character who did not have a lot of luck with romantic things going on around her.
I do not want to invalidate any issues that others have had with this person, but in my case, I was always treated kindly and with respect. I did let Jupiter know that when I was asked, but I will admit that I was completely spooked when there were mentions of DWOPP, and that drama along with various others were why I dropped that character.
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@Lucidmoon hey, thank you for coming to provide some context. I know I expressed some disbelief about Warren-player saying the flirting was asked for, but that’s only because I definitely have seen the example I posted done before and then claimed as ‘hey, they wanted this storyline!’.
I think any of us would be freaked out with claims that an RP partner might be a known sexual predator and want to drop out of the character and drama of that. Sorry this happened to you.
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@Meg You guys are welcome. I know that people have not had good experiences with this player, but that wasn’t the case for me. Comic book games seem to be a breeding ground for drama, there has been quite a bit here, but I’m hoping that it dies down now.
