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    • saoS
      sao
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      i have one job on this ship

      let it be a challenge to you

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      • MegM
        Meg @sao
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        @sao same, but my job is writing places descs. and i’m not going to do it. just talk about it.

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          Testament
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          I should also note that when you use ChapGPT for ideas on a description of something, it’ll spit out three to six paragraphs of something that’s not even entirely descriptive. And you get a lot of “You feel X way about this”

          And I’m like, “Goddamn ChatGPT, quit metaposing at me.”

          I don't know what I'm doing. Poke at Seven Nations sevennations.aresmush.com port 2021

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          • Third EyeT
            Third Eye
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            Mostly as a player, I’d wanna know. I don’t think I’d play a game that was largely AI-generated in terms of thematic content. I find AI fun as a toy (I definitely played with it the last couple nights when trying to get a handle on why the rosters and theme files ‘felt’ AI to me and some of what it gave me was very amusing, particularly in terms of prompts) but there are aspects of how it works right now that I’m personally uncomfortable with and I’d just…wanna know so I was making informed engagement decisions.

            ETA: I do think ‘GM campaign by AI’ is probably inevitable and likely already happening in spheres I’m less aware of. IDK how I feel about it, but I’m not SURPRISED its now a part of the hobby.

            I want something else to get me through this
            Semi-charmed kinda life, baby, baby
            I want something else, I'm not listening when you say good-bye

            She/Her or They/Them

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            • PolkP
              Polk @Third Eye
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              @Third-Eye Not to disagree with you, but in the year 2023, I think you can assume that for any text put out in public, there’s a decent chance AI assistance was used.

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                Testament @Third Eye
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                @Third-Eye It’s already happening from what I’ve seen. People been using AI to create DnD one-shots or campaigns. I remember reading a reddit thread about some of the better ones and some of the terrible ones it spat out.

                I could see that eventually making it’s way to mushes for inspiration in creating plotlines.

                I don't know what I'm doing. Poke at Seven Nations sevennations.aresmush.com port 2021

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                • RinelR
                  Rinel @Tez
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                  @Tez said in Concordia Thread:

                  @helvetica Especially with the volume of rosters that were created, it neither particularly surprised me NOR, if I’m honest, am I SUPER BOTHERED by the use of it to generate one-paragraph backgrounds or placeholder text on 100 princes and princesses.

                  (Rinel is gonna come for me.)

                  Yeah to be honest I’m not actually all that bothered by tiny TEMPORARY backgrounds that can be expanded by actual people into real backgrounds, if noted, so I’ll concede to @sao’s claim of violence.

                  That said, if they’re AI generated, I’m not really sure how much they can actually tie into a metaplot, so I’m not hugely sure why the ban on OCs.

                  This is, of course, still entirely speculative!!

                  bird's still the word

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                  • saoS
                    sao @Polk
                    last edited by sao

                    @Polk OK but this is a writing-based hobby wherein we do writing together on an improvisational basis and in that context there needs to be a label if I’m not interacting and engaging with other humans doing the same thing

                    Edit: like I am not saying not to use AI ever especially when processing large amounts of information or asking for details or while brainstorming, but if the RP or the GMing or the descs or the rosters are being plonked into the server for players to interact without human creativity applied it is majorly different for me.

                    let it be a challenge to you

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                      Testament
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                      That’s implying that any of you here aren’t actually AI.

                      I don't know what I'm doing. Poke at Seven Nations sevennations.aresmush.com port 2021

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                      • helveticaH
                        helvetica @Rinel
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                        @Rinel The hiatus on OC creation allows them to control the flow of players into the game.

                        Street Cred

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                          mietze @Testament
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                          @Testament ohhhhh I didn’t know the “you feel” stuff for descs when you use it!! I had wondered why I’d seen metapose descs like that done on a few different places. It was super weird because it’s so not done in the rp communities I’ve been in (where “You see a handsome man who makes your knees weak if you’re a chick” descs are rightfully mocked). I had never seen that in room descs before until fairly recently but that makes sense if people are using those tools.

                          But I hate You feel x descs. It really breaks my immersion and enjoyment for whatever reason. Maybe because unlike when a player metaposes at you in an invasive way you can respond but you can’t really fight a room desc!

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                          • saoS
                            sao @mietze
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                            @mietze I’ll fight a room desc WITH MY FISTS

                            let it be a challenge to you

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                            • helveticaH
                              helvetica @sao
                              last edited by

                              @sao And you’ll feel triumphant.

                              Street Cred

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                              • CoinC
                                Coin @Rinel
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                                @Rinel said in Concordia Thread:

                                I’m not really sure how much they can actually tie into a metaplot

                                If the vast majority of the game was plugged into the AI generator and the correct prompts were used? They can tie in integrally.

                                In Occam I trust.

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                                  Testament @mietze
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                                  @mietze This is just my experience, but when I’m using an AI program to help create a desc, be a room or person, or item, the result always tends to have this impression that it’s describing something and telling the reader how they feel about it. Or should feel.

                                  Sometimes you get weird stuff. And you’re given a flood of verbs on how you, as a reader, interpret something.

                                  I don't know what I'm doing. Poke at Seven Nations sevennations.aresmush.com port 2021

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                                  • helveticaH
                                    helvetica
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                                    An inescapable comparison to this game is Arx, where GMs have been run ragged trying to keep up with our need to be catered to. I can’t begrudge these people for experimenting with a strategy that might be more sustainable for them.

                                    Street Cred

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                                      mietze
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                                      This is very interesting to me.

                                      When I see stuff like that I tend to assume that the person is just perhaps abusing their thesaurus a bit.

                                      I do tend to write a lot of detailed and descriptive scene sets, flavor poses, and descs so now I’m wondering if people think I’m lifting them off AI! Or maybe they don’t think that because I don’t metapose in a directive way in them.

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                                      • TezT
                                        Tez Administrators @mietze
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                                        @mietze I checked your description before I ran into my daily limit. You are PROBABLY a HUMAN.

                                        MAYBE. 😄

                                        she/they

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                                          Testament @Tez
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                                          @Tez
                                          terminator

                                          I don't know what I'm doing. Poke at Seven Nations sevennations.aresmush.com port 2021

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                                          • PolkP
                                            Polk @helvetica
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                                            @helvetica I hope the roster has a good balance of older PCs then. What ultimately did me in on Arx post-Ari was that the roster skewed young.

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