Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo
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@sao he belongs to a kinder, gentler time of defending sex pests and dismissing women. let him stay there.
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@eddie I really don’t think your tone and manner really comes across to others like you probably intend it in your head.
But I can totally believe it’s exactly what the experience would be like for someone who tried to raise their discomfort with the actions of one of the staff/main STes on your game. And so it is pretty valuable information for outsiders.
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@eddie said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@GF I asked you how you wanted me to proceed.
No, you didn’t. You tried to get a reaction out of me, the way sex pests and their cheerleaders do; to try to gain or at least feel you’ve gained control over the narrative, what others are allowed to say, what others are allowed to think. And probably to harass any of the victims who had thought people like you wouldn’t come to this thread to call them liars, that too.
We have all seen it a thousand times before, and seen it done better. It’s all so predictable. I wouldn’t bother replying to anything you say if not for my belief that your victims need to see people pushing back against your grade school attempts at manipulation, so they know we believe them and not you.
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@mietze said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@eddie I really don’t think your tone and manner really comes across to others like you probably intend it in your head.
I disagree. I think this is his intention.
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@GF But you told me my perspective was useless, and that I had no control! I gave you control to dictate how I proceed, and now I’m at fault again. Then accuse me of a false claim that implies I’m the one being a sex pest and harassing people. Do you have any evidence to substantiate the claim that I do any of that, or is it just your opinion? I feel victimized by a bully who is saying things that just aren’t true.
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eta: ew don’t upvote me, eddie. this is about you.
this is the loop we’re stuck in forever, because you. you just forever turning about ‘what about YoU proving this?’ when asked to provide anything of your own. it’s boring. it’s infinite. this is about you.
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@eddie Pretending to be too stupid to understand the conversation is also a very old and predictable tactic.
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@GF said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
your victims need to see people pushing back against your grade school attempts at manipulation, so they know we believe them and not you.
This part. I believe the people who’ve come forward and spoken about their awful experiences. I’m sorry you’ve had to do that. I know it was hard speaking out. Thank you. I believe you.
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@Roz to come across as kind of immature and cringey rather than gotcha?
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@mietze said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@Roz to come across as kind of immature and cringey rather than gotcha?
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@GF So is not providing proof that anything happened.
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Well in any case. At least there’s no garbage memes…yet.
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@eddie Let’s start with this. Tell us your experience with AOA. Who do you play, how have you interacted with Hadrix and Cujo.
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Testimony is evidence. The only reason you don’t take it as proof is a) you find the witness incredible or b) there’s no such thing as proof on an internet forum, see argument cited supra.
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@Meg said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@eddie Let’s start with this. Tell us your experience with AOA. Who do you play, how have you interacted with Hadrix and Cujo.
I can’t wait to watch this get ignored in favor of more conversation on the art of debate or whatever the fuck.
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@helvetica I’m still waiting on his proof that everyone who’s accused him and his buddies of being creeps has committed perjury in the court of law that this fucking internet forum apparently is.
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@GF said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@helvetica I’m still waiting on his proof that everyone who’s accused him and his buddies of being creeps has committed perjury in the court of law that this fucking internet forum apparently is.
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@eddie said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
HELLLOOOOO… Hellllloooooo… hellloooo.
Ah, what I thought, an echo chamber.
Such important, new views brought to the discourse!
One wonders if Soapbox is so dull now that you can’t argue with the wimmenz, that people might start coming over here to stir up shit.
But that is for a different board, and we are very off topic.
@eddie said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@GF So is not providing proof that anything happened.
Since you were all lawyer-y earlier, testimony of what happened is proof. We have a ‘he said/she said’ situation. Except we have ‘multiple she’s have come on to say what happened/he has not come in to offer counter testimony.’
You know what happens if you get a speeding ticket, show up to court, you tell the court that you were not speeding, and the cop is not there to say that you were? Ticket gets dismissed.
Buy instead of coming in to offer counter testimony, you show up with ‘bitches be lying’. So we don’t even need to progress to logs.
eta: @sao beat me to the evidence bit while I wasn’t looking, whee!
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Personally I would like proof that accusations on a MU forum have had deleterious affects to any of the accused. And I don’t mean not being able to play a MU any more. Evidence of harm please.
