@Cygnus So would you pull this shit at someone’s kitchen table? Or do you just think that because a game is online that the ‘DMs’ have to play by your rules?

The game is the table of the DM and STs who need to make choices for the table as a whole for the game they are creating and the story they are telling.

So far my experience is that if a character isn’t or won’t work with the story they are telling they’ll help you with a concept that will work offering advice and tweaks to ensure inclusion. In my case that’s exactly what they did with patience and assistance when I admitted my math brain is shit.

I’m sorry your experience was so… well… chaotic. It definitely seems you were getting mixed signals. But seriously step back and reflect a bit on how you’d approach a dm who is taking time and investing into building a game.

Cue every AI movie/series compilation to the tune of We Didn’t Start the Fire.

Grand. Now I have to make a watch list starting with 2001: A Space Oddesey and all the way through to Zardoz or Zoe.

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@Evilgrayson

Sorry to hear that someone found your fun bug and stepped on it. That really sucks. Hopefully you find a game that’s chill. Thanks for the heads up.

In the meantime I was just about to app a werewolf into a game… but even if it isnt them I want to stay far the fuck away from that shit. Could you dm me the owod game for peace of mind?

Personally I use ai now for character portraits, i give my parameters, hair, eye color, skin tone and style then write a description based on whichever image looks best. It helps me feel less icky about picking rl people as inspiration/pbs.

Also honestly if a mu is using ai to describe rooms that’s fine by me. Whatever makes the process of grid building and therefore game building just a bit easier. That’s why players used to be asked to do it, and there’s not a whole lot of people reading them anyway. I’d rather they focus their attention on rules and theme of a game any day.

AI theme and poses are a bit more concerning since those things really require some sort of personal touch otherwise why not just rp with ai… there’s all kinds of stories about people doing so and even falling in love. (I’m not calling this wrong with this because people should be allowed to love how they want if there are no direct victims. Just noting it happens. It happens in mushing too but thats a different barrel of monkeys.)

This is heartbreaking.

Excited for the new Buffy!

I dont know if this will help and I realize it’s a herculean effort to pull out of the cascade of horrors. But as the judicial system gives us a tiny bit of breathing room it might give us a chance to speak. (The following was borrowed from what someone told me)

202 224 3121

This is the phone number for the U.S. Capitol switchboard where an operator will connect you directly with the office you request.

You can let your members of Congress know how you feel and what you expect regarding the policies and practices being proposed and implemented in this nation; about Executive Orders that require Congressional attention; and about President Trump’s comments on basically everyone who isn’t a cis white man.

Sorry if it’s out of place.

@Nynrose It was a shock to a few of us and I’m sorry that happened to coincide with a tough time like that. I hope that all goes well and you recover quickly. ️

Dr Ruth and Richard Simmons.

When one of my characters theme songs come on my Tidal… and then I go awww 🥰 but then when I remember I can’t play her anymore and I go awwww . Too soon.

@Coin said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Pacha said in MU Peeves Thread:

I have realised that from years of playing in WoD MUSHES, I am so conditioned to staff wanting to breathe down people’s necks about every little thing that I get incredibly anxious when I see other people RPing about something my character did—even something super innocent. It brings me out in hives that someone is about to send me a shitty job to tell me I am WRONG and BAD.

I think it is nice that games are a lot more chill these days, but I think it probably speaks volumes about the general state of WoD games that my most comfortable state is to be completely under the staff’s radar because staff on a WoD game paying close attention to what you’re doing is almost universally bad.

@Sillylily said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Pacha I feel this so much… (incoming rant to commiserate not detract)

I try to play ‘off the radar’ i.e, ‘As little contact with staff as possible’ with the idea staff is only there for paperwork and banning. This includes being extra careful around staff alts and their packs/coterie/club/org/cults. If they make a ruling: I accept it as if I were sitting at their GM table. Arguing doesn’t serve anything but to get me on a shit list… and that’s no fun. (I don’t want to leave and lose the quality rp I’ve found in the shit show. I’m willing to put up with a lot for good writing. )

Largely on WOD games it keeps me able to rp and I’m a lot less stressed …

It’s not the best strategy (so maladaptive) on Mu* but its definitely an effective way to exist in a online gaming setting.

Unfortunately that has screwed me on non-WOD servers…

Upside for nonWOD mush: I only rely on me for rp and it has allowed me to rp with as little help from staff as possible. I can rp without touching the plot or npcs. This is nice if not effective for getting involved in plot.

Downside: I literally avoid staff and trip all over myself to make sure I’m not bothering them if i do have to interact… this includes with staff bits and npcs or even just ooc saying ‘Hi’. This makes involvment difficult and anxiety inducing. And I get the feeling that I’ve missed interacting with some pretty awesome people.

The fucking trauma, y’all.

Precisely. I know there are awesome people staffing and running games. I know I’m missing out but…

The tingling dread weasles are conditioned to flail at the first sight of a wizbit …

Insert a ferret freak out gif here I can’t add because I’m on a phone.

@Pacha I feel this so much… (incoming rant to commiserate not detract)

I try to play ‘off the radar’ i.e, ‘As little contact with staff as possible’ with the idea staff is only there for paperwork and banning. This includes being extra careful around staff alts and their packs/coterie/club/org/cults. If they make a ruling: I accept it as if I were sitting at their GM table. Arguing doesn’t serve anything but to get me on a shit list… and that’s no fun. (I don’t want to leave and lose the quality rp I’ve found in the shit show. I’m willing to put up with a lot for good writing. )

Largely on WOD games it keeps me able to rp and I’m a lot less stressed …

It’s not the best strategy (so maladaptive) on Mu* but its definitely an effective way to exist in a online gaming setting.

Unfortunately that has screwed me on non-WOD servers…

Upside for nonWOD mush: I only rely on me for rp and it has allowed me to rp with as little help from staff as possible. I can rp without touching the plot or npcs. This is nice if not effective for getting involved in plot.

Downside: I literally avoid staff and trip all over myself to make sure I’m not bothering them if i do have to interact… this includes with staff bits and npcs or even just ooc saying ‘Hi’. This makes involvment difficult and anxiety inducing. And I get the feeling that I’ve missed interacting with some pretty awesome people.

Moving in the midst of medical procedures.

Trying to figure out how to move with one and a half people. My SO and I don’t have many friends nearby.

Packing.

Having no job security.

Being in that shitty medium place were I currently make too much for income restricted apartments, I make too little for an apartment that isn’t restricted unless I want to up my already 2 hour one way commute towards 3 hours…

Ridiculous problems but I needed to vent.

@spiriferida If Spider has become self aware and has changed then they will understand why people have this reaction.

Recognizing trauma that one caused, accepting it and not redirecting blame a big step for former abusers.

@Pavel Because it is always a good idea to tell someone to be cautious and create real fucking boundaries with someone who has a history of not respecting them…

Spiders online shit affected real life relationships of people who trusted them. Spiders RL shit affected online relationships of people who trusted them.

People like this need to come with a warning label. Period.

If people wish to proceed either way let them do so with eyes wide open.

ETA Note: I know it feels weird for people to be lingering on this sometimes years later. In most cases normal healthy adults who’ve matured and even some who have gone through therapy.

My rebuttal is this: How deep does someone have to scar another person for them to remember it let alone have it color how they interact with others years later?

@RiotDawn The danger also extended to friends of people they were ‘friends’ or close with. Not just the people they “like”. It seemed as though if they felt like someone was getting “too much” attention they’d make every effort to drive them off… not only with narcissistic tactics to isolate friends but with seriously toxic and insidious social manipulation and malicious gossip for those that they felt were a threat to their “friendships”. They have done this across mediums and social platforms and over years.

They don’t have to be grooming someone to abuse them.

It’s entirely reasonable to use caution and clear boundaries in future interactions with someone like this. If they’ve changed, they will understand.

He was a belated but wonderful inheritance.
(oocly, icly Aco has opinions) still going strong and well loved.

I didn’t have a whole lot of time with it but Aconite was Construct crafted by Obsidian and his Magisters in a ritual under Ahj’on in the temple of the Great Reflection to be a Weaponto destroy all non-believers. She was taken out of the Mangaldissi by some slaves who found themselves on the wrong end of a fight with Fidante.

Aco was so poisonous, even touching her briefly held some risk. Contact could range from severe hallucination and euphoria to just ded. She was poisonous right up until her Crossing. Her blood was so caustic it melted people’s limbs off. Needless to say she was just a little aloof and strange due to this.

She explored her roots, where her ‘family’ came from and found out that the bloodline that Obsidian used to create her were a bunch of Serpent Khati who got it into their head to worship the Abyss and set roots in the Saffron Isles. Some of them became shards.

The rest of the story I love but it’s probably boring to anyone but me.

I really enjoyed playing Arx, getting to cobble words together to build great stories with all of you was really the best times I’ve had on a mush in over a decade. I hope to meet folks again in 2.0.

You’re all really amazing! Also Apostate is as previously mentioned an utter Rockstar, a legend. I appreciate him letting me take on this story with an OC right out of the gate.