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While I vastly prefer 2nd Edition Lost in 90% of everything…the complaints about pledges are absolutely valid.
There’s some good things: bargains with mortals are better in that they serve a specific purpose that mechanically explains HOW they hide you from the Gentry and how that can be useful.
Likewise, Seasonal bargains are better (but badly organized - it is a badly organized book overall, with a lot of weird things hidden throughout).
But I really miss being able to strike mechanically detailed pledges with other characters outside of the few defined bits in the core book. YES, the pledge mechanics were overly complicated and desperately needed some streamlining, but they threw the baby out with the bathwater.
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Gosh, this whole thing is exciting. I dunno why CofD games are out of fashion at the moment but I’m also in that space of ‘if I had the time I’d totally do one’. I’d love a Vampire The Requiem game out there. (I do prefer the 2nd edition for basically all of CofD tbh).
Anyway this isn’t really that much of a contribution I’m just excited for chatter about cofd games hurray.
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I’ve always thought though, that sometimes running single sphere games would be the way to go rather than worrying about all the crossover. It either becomes a lot of hiding or a lot of sharing. Both of which are fine I guess, depending on what you want.
Sometimes I want to take the cross sphere to the next level, I had the idea once of running a changeling + vampire game but treat it as basically just a single sphere game, and the vampires like they’re an extra court. So you’d have the usual Changeling courts and the vampires would be the … night court, or something. But this mostly came about because of the Oaths of Night and Day merit in the Dark Eras book that let a Notary notarize an oath with a Changeling and I thought that was interesting.
Any Vampire game I made these days though would be allowing the Dhampir template from Half-Damned as an option. I think this would be a good thing to see as it would allow people to get that ‘dip’ into vampire with the partial template like a Wolf-blooded or Fae-touched, without needing to do the whole blood-slavery thing that comes with being a ghoul. Though I’d still allow ghouls too.
I’d probably do something like Vampire/Changeling/Deviant? Maybe throw werewolf in too. The truth is there’s too much of CofD that I like and want to see represented. I always thought it would also be neat to allow the Absent as a mortal+ option, the ghost template from Geist that could be used for PCs.
I do agree with being generally sad about the pledge system in Lost 2e. That and there’s a few statemtns that the idea that a promise is ‘part of the changeling forever, even if broken’ and stuff that always makes people hesitant to actually promise things. And yeah, I agree that Lost can and should often be cagey with their words, actually making deals and agreements should also be something they shouldn’t be so hesitant to do maybe.
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@Livia I’m idly wondering how much my Everworld idea would work with nWoD. It was conceived for oWoD post-EotW, but it might work with nWoD. HMMMMM…
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Sometimes I want to take the cross sphere to the next level, I had the idea once of running a changeling + vampire game but treat it as basically just a single sphere game, and the vampires like they’re an extra court. So you’d have the usual Changeling courts and the vampires would be the … night court, or something. But this mostly came about because of the Oaths of Night and Day merit in the Dark Eras book that let a Notary notarize an oath with a Changeling and I thought that was interesting.
This also has strong Jim Butcher/Dresden Files vibes and I’m here for it!
Any Vampire game I made these days though would be allowing the Dhampir template from Half-Damned as an option. I think this would be a good thing to see as it would allow people to get that ‘dip’ into vampire with the partial template like a Wolf-blooded or Fae-touched, without needing to do the whole blood-slavery thing that comes with being a ghoul. Though I’d still allow ghouls too.
I really liked the Dhampir template. It is one of the better minor templates I’ve seen and feels way cooler than the previous dhampyr/dhampir templates from older editions.
The truth is there’s too much of CofD that I like and want to see represented. I always thought it would also be neat to allow the Absent as a mortal+ option, the ghost template from Geist that could be used for PCs.
I personally tend to appreciate this perspective more than how the big multi-sphere games sometimes tend to be, which is as a way to compete with other big multisphere games. It’s always cooler to be enthusiastic and exuberant about things that you want to see rather than doing it out of a shrewd sense of wanting to be the next big thing in the WoD/CofD world.
On PyReach I’m mostly including things to allow people to have it if they end up using the system. Here’s what I have:
These are all very optional and designed to be added or removed based on the type of game that you want to run. I personally don’t think that the old multisphere format really works that well anymore (edit: if it ever did, tbh) and tends to lead to staff burnout and not being able to put enough time and energy into the core groups, but if someone wants to do it, more power to them. I would probably stick with that Changeling-and-probably-Geist idea if I were to make a new game myself.
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@somasatori said in PyReach:
This also has strong Jim Butcher/Dresden Files vibes and I’m here for it!
One of the NOLA games did this, too. Everyone could tell everyone else was a super, and there were Accords to keep cross-sphere from going ballistic. It was neat.
Something something Dhamphir
Were these the ones that had the blood magic to help make the babies? Because it’s silly enough I approve.
@somasatori said in PyReach:
On PyReach I’m mostly including things to allow people to have it if they end up using the system. Here’s what I have
MUMMY
Mummy Pun? MUMMY PUN!
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@Jennkryst said in PyReach:
Were these the ones that had the blood magic to help make the babies? Because it’s silly enough I approve.
Yeah! There’s a Lancea et Sanctum ritual that lets you … bless? … a human and vampire couple with a little demon vampire baby.
@somasatori said in PyReach:
On PyReach I’m mostly including things to allow people to have it if they end up using the system. Here’s what I have
MUMMY
I was kind of wondering when you or MisterBoring would notice Mummy in the screenshots I’ve been posting.
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@somasatori said in PyReach:
Yeah! There’s a Lancea et Sanctum ritual that lets you … bless? … a human and vampire couple with a little demon vampire baby.
I believe the Lancea version was to punish Vampires for being too ‘human’. Also made anyone the ‘father’, independent of physical sex or genitalia. This does mean that M|M, F|F can produce a baby, as well as a cis female impregnate a cis male. Also it was ‘the first person you have sex with in the next month’.
The Crone version was the opposite, making the target the ‘mother’ of the baby, possibly not as punishment, but in celebration of motherhood, I forget.
Ordo was very ‘You have normal functioning reproductive biology, good luck’. And maybe there was a Devotion, also?
@somasatori said in PyReach:
Mummy in the screenshots
You specifically DM’d me questions about how things worked, I knew it was happening!
Mummy Pun? MUMMY PUN!
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@Jennkryst said in PyReach:
This does mean that M|M, F|F can produce a baby, as well as a cis female impregnate a cis male. Also it was ‘the first person you have sex with in the next month’.
This is the kind of quality MUSH experience we’re missing these days.
@somasatori said in PyReach:
Mummy in the screenshots
You specifically DM’d me questions about how things worked, I knew it was happening!
That’s true XD I’ve got some kind of respiratory thing that has required me to live in a haze of dayquil, hence all the posting today
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If anyone is interested in being a coder for a Hunter or Mortal(+) game, I’m happy to provide the story.
Like I said earlier, I suck at coding and like Ares.
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If anyone is interested in being a coder for a Hunter or Mortal(+) game, I’m happy to provide the story.
Like I said earlier, I suck at coding and like Ares.
So the good thing about this is that a lot of your work for Mortal+ is already done! You just need to find someone who’s able to Ruby their way to Hunter and then you’re all set.
And they would need to update it for Ares 2.x, unless you went with an older version! -
@somasatori said in PyReach:
If anyone is interested in being a coder for a Hunter or Mortal(+) game, I’m happy to provide the story.
Like I said earlier, I suck at coding and like Ares.
So the good thing about this is that a lot of your work for Mortal+ is already done! You just need to find someone who’s able to Ruby their way to Hunter and then you’re all set.
I did try doing that for like… 2-3 months (whatever the free trial of digitalocean is) and I barely go past the Ares tutorial
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@catzilla I mostly got it up on a droplet, but there were some issues I ran into with npm. I think this may have been due to updating Ares after installing the plugin, but for a blissful moment it looked like it was working. I can try it again and give you a holler!
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@somasatori said in PyReach:
If anyone is interested in being a coder for a Hunter or Mortal(+) game, I’m happy to provide the story.
Like I said earlier, I suck at coding and like Ares.
So the good thing about this is that a lot of your work for Mortal+ is already done! You just need to find someone who’s able to Ruby their way to Hunter and then you’re all set.
I did try doing that for like… 2-3 months (whatever the free trial of digitalocean is) and I barely go past the Ares tutorial
I will add, faraday and others on the Ares discord are very nice and helpful but since I didn’t grow up on MU-coding, my brain just didn’t get it.
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@Jennkryst said in PyReach:
One of the NOLA games did this, too. Everyone could tell everyone else was a super, and there were Accords to keep cross-sphere from going ballistic. It was neat.
This has been a bit of a running trend in CofD games lately. There’s always been an agreement, an accords, an oath, a pact or something between the supernaturals of the game that let them interact and be aware of each other to some level in probably the last three games I was on.
I like it, mostly. I especially like that it lets Mortal+ types truly get involved. If they can sign the paperwork/get ‘accorded’ or whatever, then they’re not Masquerade breaches or whatever.
Were these the ones that had the blood magic to help make the babies? Because it’s silly enough I approve.
Yeah that’s one of the options haha. There’s a few different ways it can all happen. Including the old standard V:tR way of ‘I dunno, Vitae is weird and sometimes THINGS just happen!’
