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    Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo

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      CuriousGamer
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      For someone who’s accused of not being able to keep his hands to himself - good to know he’s in a relationship.

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        Testament @Jennkryst
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        @Jennkryst

        focused fire

        I don't know what I'm doing. Poke at Seven Nations sevennations.aresmush.com port 2021

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          Zephyr
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          Hi. Zephyr previously of and now fired from AoA here. I didn’t want to post all about this initially, but I feel like a few things need to be corrected, and shared.

          @64bitjedi said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

          The incident of discussion was overseen by Cujo and Zephyr, and my understanding after the ruling was that it was done to their satisfaction. Subsequent incidents were not brought to my attention until this thread was sent my way.

          I’m sorry, what? When? I have no recollection of ever investigating or clearing you of anything.

          When the people who will defend others leave a space, that space gets worse.

          I wholeheartedly agree that when people who object to harassment leave the game it makes the game worse. You know full well that I spent years advocating for players who were harassed, only to be met with the repeated refrain of “It was just jokes.” or similar excuses. No amount of evidence, and no number of complaints was ever enough.

          As I said to Cujo after he dismissed me by @mail at 1:40 in the morning when he hoped I was already gone for the night, it ceases to be a joke when a player says stop. After that point it becomes harassment. “It’s just a joke” is what bullies say to justify their behavior if anyone dares call them out. The fact that this alone seems to not be understood by the headwiz of AoA is a problem. Not the only one, clearly, but one of them.

          Cujo has also recently been claiming he banned someone who harassed one of my characters as some shining example of how he does take it seriously, except that’s not what actually happened. He didn’t ban the guy after I showed Cujo the weird incident. He banned the guy some time later when the player in question posted “This game sucks and I’m leaving, but not for a month so come say goodbye.” to one of the boards. Cujo showed him the door that night. It wasn’t for me, or because I was bothered by the guy, it was because he shat on the game out in the open, and Cujo got mad.

          Banshee, you were there for a lot of this. You knew. You complained about some of these predatory people personally because you were stuck with them in your group. Pretending you don’t know is dishonest and you know it.

          People need to know there is someone they can report this stuff to.

          Yep. They sure do.

          Which is why it’s funny that when I stood up and said I don’t think the person we’ve gotten so many complaints about for years should be given access to staff powers and all that it entails, I was kicked off of staff, and then off the game as a whole. Within a week my entire roster of characters has been nuked except my primary, which has been wiped of everything, moved to the retired characters lounge, and had her password changed, and the same was done to people who were known to be my friends. I never indicated to him I was leaving, so what precisely motivated this? Could it be that again Cujo got mad? Why would anyone trust staff if a member of staff can’t stand up and say this is wrong without Cujo going scorched earth on them, and their friends?

          Additionally I’m also hearing a whole slew of lies about why I was remove as an admin. First it was that I stole code, then apparently I demanded Cujo give me the game itself, and then I demanded a copy of the game for my own use, then it was because I was too angry about Hadrix and I was a safety risk. It would be hilarious if the person saying this weren’t the headwiz of the game who is now concocting stories because he realizes that in a fit he removed someone who not only tried to stop harassment, but was also harassed, and maybe that looks bad. It’s also funny how the alleged code theft and demands weren’t given as a reason why I was being removed from staff when he @mailed me.

          Cujo cannot be trusted. Period.

          Ultimately I’m not sorry that I’m gone, I’m only sorry that I didn’t just leave sooner. An optimistic part of me kept wanting to believe I could help people if I just said the right things to make Cujo understand why all of this was so wrong. He is good at sometimes appearing as though he can be rational and reasoned with, but based on everything I’ve seen here about Cujo’s previous behavior, that is clearly never going to happen because he himself is a guilty of some pretty skeevy stuff.

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            shit-piss-love @Zephyr
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            @Zephyr Thanks for coming by to clear that up. We all smelled flying monkey on the people who showed up here to try to do damage control for AoA and it’s nice to have the real scoop.

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              Narson @Zephyr
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              @Zephyr The ‘stayed staffing in place that was bad and had real ethical dodginess thinking I could help or do good in some way’ club is one with a wide and varied membership (Thinking of you SerenityMUSH and Firan), Some of the best people I know have made that mistake, it doesn’t make you feel good, but, yeah.

              Sorry to see Cujo never changed, that is really…sad in so many ways. 20+ years is a long time. I guess I should go read my own forum signature again.

              When someone shows you who they are, over and over again? Believe them.

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                CuriousGamer @Zephyr
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                @Zephyr Did you happen to grab a copy of the @mail Cujo sent? Not that I don’t believe you - but it’d be interesting to see what he wrote in the firing.

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                  Zephyr @CuriousGamer
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                  @CuriousGamer

                  I did, I have a log and screen shots of that and the entire conversation that followed.

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                    CuriousGamer @Zephyr
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                    @Zephyr Would you mind posting? I’m pretty sure other people would be interested as well.

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                      SpaceKhomeini @Zephyr
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                      @Zephyr Not to hammer this into the ground even further but I’ve known Zephyr for years off and on and if Zephyr says they smell smoke, there’s probably fire.

                      tl;dr: Zeph is cool AF, always in good faith and reasonable.

                      Also, Cujo is a fucking herb

                      I woke up feeling so good, I think I’d better call in sick/ I need a personal trainer to help me hold my drink
                      I plan to be spontaneous next time we meet/I’m putting off procrastinating until next week
                      I’ll get onto it when I give a shit

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                        Narson @SpaceKhomeini
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                        @SpaceKhomeini said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

                        Also, Cujo is a fucking herb

                        I know people sometimes have strong views on coriander, but dang. It’s just there trying to make our soups and curries better, it doesn’t deserve this.

                        When someone shows you who they are, over and over again? Believe them.

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                          Zephyr @CuriousGamer
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                          @CuriousGamer

                          I don’t know about posting it on the forum. I know that the admin of AoA are watching this like a hawk. Before I was kicked off staff I watched them all commiserate over how awful they thought this post was, and assure that they knew everyone here was just a bunch of angry, lying people who were banned from games. No proof is enough proof for some people, and when presented both it and the person who posts it is ripped to shreds. Granted posting here at all puts me at risk of it too.

                          As satisfying as it is to see all of this finally aired out, it’s also disappointing to be repeatedly painted as the villain in a place I invested 7 years playing, and 4 or 5 years on staff trying to help. It’s not fun.

                          DM if you want to see it for now, I guess? I can shoot logs over to people who aren’t in the flying monkeys camp.

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                            BloodAngel @Zephyr
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                            @Zephyr I’m sorry. This has to suck, I know you devoted lots of time to that game and you had always been cool to me when I played. Three or four times, I tried to get into this game.

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                              Testament @Zephyr
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                              @Zephyr They’re all welcome to drop by and attempt to justify/defend/brush off their egregiously shitty behavior.

                              They won’t, but hey, one can hope.

                              I don't know what I'm doing. Poke at Seven Nations sevennations.aresmush.com port 2021

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                                Adora @Jennkryst
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                                @Jennkryst said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

                                @oknow said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

                                WTF has this thread DONE to BMD.

                                Jaysus.

                                Given us a target to focus fire on.

                                fully operational death star

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                                  helvetica @Zephyr
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                                  @Zephyr said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

                                  everyone here was just a bunch of angry, lying people who were banned from games.

                                  Us?! Banned from somewhere?! Never.

                                  Street Cred

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                                    Meg @helvetica
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                                    @helvetica excuse me, i was unbanned. they saw how wrong and unjustified my ban was.

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                                      helvetica @Meg
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                                      @Meg I was also unbanned because my insults were valid.

                                      Street Cred

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                                        Jennkryst @helvetica
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                                        @helvetica Incredibly rude of them to refuse to lift my ban.

                                        Mummy Pun? MUMMY PUN!
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                                          blu @Zephyr
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                                          @Zephyr said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

                                          everyone here was just a bunch of angry, lying people who were banned from games

                                          I am angry.

                                          I only lie about Santa Claus, or who ate the last cookie (sorry @Roadspike, IT WAS ME).

                                          But, um… I’d really like to see logs/screenshots if you would be OK DM’ing them to me. Mostly because… I’ve been there, and I guess I want to see if things are the same as I suspect they’ve always been. If you don’t mind.

                                          continue without disabling
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                                            hellfrog @Zephyr
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                                            @Zephyr I’m sorry you put all that work in and got dismissed. 😞 that feels so bad.

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