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      Testament @Roz
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      @Roz Ah. Yeah, my bad. I was just noting that you don’t have to go digging around in the game’s database to find logs.

      Mind, both of these actions are pretty terrible and are a pretty egregious invasion of privacy it might be. Though I do think there is something far more heinous about willfully resetting a character’s password just in order to look at their logs. Now, I might be assuming that’s the reason for such an action in this case, but I can’t think of any other reason that might need to happen.

      I know as a game runner, I’ve had to @newpass people, but that was largely due to just people forgetting their password. Which really, is the usual functionality of that command. Not for a staffer that’s gone AWOL.

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        BloodAngel
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        gross to the max

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            Pavel @Testament
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            @Testament said in Neitherlands:

            a pretty egregious invasion of privacy it might be

            Of course boilerplate no expectation of privacy using someone else’s system etc, etc, etc…

            It’s not only deeply unethical, at least with my particular code of ethics; it’s mindbendingly fuckin’ stupid. What is even the point? If you wanna read 'em because you’re creepy, why post them?

            Normally I can figure out the reasoning behind heinous crappy decisions, but I’m honestly at a loss here. What’s the point?

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              Roz @Pavel
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              @Pavel said in Neitherlands:

              @Testament said in Neitherlands:

              a pretty egregious invasion of privacy it might be

              Of course boilerplate no expectation of privacy using someone else’s system etc, etc, etc…

              It’s not only deeply unethical, at least with my particular code of ethics; it’s mindbendingly fuckin’ stupid. What is even the point? If you wanna read 'em because you’re creepy, why post them?

              Normally I can figure out the reasoning behind heinous crappy decisions, but I’m honestly at a loss here. What’s the point?

              Expression of power. Potential humiliation of a person you don’t like.

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                Pavel @Roz
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                @Roz said in Neitherlands:

                @Pavel said in Neitherlands:

                @Testament said in Neitherlands:

                a pretty egregious invasion of privacy it might be

                Of course boilerplate no expectation of privacy using someone else’s system etc, etc, etc…

                It’s not only deeply unethical, at least with my particular code of ethics; it’s mindbendingly fuckin’ stupid. What is even the point? If you wanna read 'em because you’re creepy, why post them?

                Normally I can figure out the reasoning behind heinous crappy decisions, but I’m honestly at a loss here. What’s the point?

                Expression of power. Potential humiliation of a person you don’t like.

                I suppose. I was hoping for something more tantalising than bog standard “is a fuckstick.”

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                  Testament @Pavel
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                  @Pavel said in Neitherlands:

                  @Testament said in Neitherlands:

                  a pretty egregious invasion of privacy it might be

                  Of course boilerplate no expectation of privacy using someone else’s system etc, etc, etc…

                  I was going to originally point this out, but I also didn’t want my eyes to roll out of my head. An yeah it should go without saying that we technically play on other people’s digital playground and the game runner owns said playground. But we as players also should have the expectation of game runners being decent human beings. An exceedingly high bar, I know.

                  It’s not only deeply unethical, at least with my particular code of ethics; it’s mindbendingly fuckin’ stupid. What is even the point? If you wanna read 'em because you’re creepy, why post them?

                  Likely I’d say some kind of personal satisfaction that they got to read all stuff that wasn’t supposed to be seen by the GM. It’s like those people like that hate-watch content creators on YouTube. And will claim they were trying to find some evidence in order to create some kind of ‘gotcha’ moment.

                  Normally I can figure out the reasoning behind heinous crappy decisions, but I’m honestly at a loss here. What’s the point?

                  I could suggest from everything I’ve seen and read so far, it’s because this particular game runner apparently hates all female characters and wants to hoard all the men to herself, but that’d be mean.

                  See, now I’m being petty. But at least I’m aware of it.

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                    helvetica @Pavel
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                    @Pavel said in Neitherlands:

                    If you wanna read 'em because you’re creepy, why post them?

                    As another provocation? To communicate that you still hold power over an individual? Maybe to pretend there’s still rp happening on the game? It’s difficult to attribute motivation to somebody who acts so far outside the bounds. I’m not super convinced there was even any forethought at all.

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                    • PavelP
                      Pavel
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                      Apparently, I’m not as jaded as I used to be. What is the world coming to?

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                        Testament @Pavel
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                        @Pavel Going soft in our old age.

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                          Pavel @Testament
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                          @Testament There are pills for that, now.

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                            DrQuinn @helvetica
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                            @helvetica said in Neitherlands:

                            Maybe to pretend there’s still rp happening on the game?

                            This was my first thought because lol 0 active scenes.

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                              hellfrog @Pavel
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                              @Pavel said in Neitherlands:

                              @Testament said in Neitherlands:

                              a pretty egregious invasion of privacy it might be

                              Of course boilerplate no expectation of privacy using someone else’s system etc, etc, etc…

                              It’s not only deeply unethical, at least with my particular code of ethics; it’s mindbendingly fuckin’ stupid. What is even the point? If you wanna read 'em because you’re creepy, why post them?

                              Normally I can figure out the reasoning behind heinous crappy decisions, but I’m honestly at a loss here. What’s the point?

                              It’s a threat. Not an effective one, clearly, but we can all achieve only to the height of our abilities.

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                              (she/her)

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                                Pavel @hellfrog
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                                @hellfrog said in Neitherlands:

                                @Pavel said in Neitherlands:

                                @Testament said in Neitherlands:

                                a pretty egregious invasion of privacy it might be

                                Of course boilerplate no expectation of privacy using someone else’s system etc, etc, etc…

                                It’s not only deeply unethical, at least with my particular code of ethics; it’s mindbendingly fuckin’ stupid. What is even the point? If you wanna read 'em because you’re creepy, why post them?

                                Normally I can figure out the reasoning behind heinous crappy decisions, but I’m honestly at a loss here. What’s the point?

                                It’s a threat. Not an effective one, clearly, but we can all achieve only to the height of our abilities.

                                It’s kinda sad. We make better threats before we even wake up properly of a morning (afternoon).

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                                  shit-piss-love @Pavel
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                                  @Pavel said in Neitherlands:

                                  It’s not only deeply unethical, at least with my particular code of ethics; it’s mindbendingly fuckin’ stupid. What is even the point? If you wanna read 'em because you’re creepy, why post them?

                                  Now that you mention it, you cannot convince me that @inuki is not reading the private scenes players are engaging in on their game.

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                                    Pavel @shit-piss-love
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                                    @shit-piss-love said in Neitherlands:

                                    @Pavel said in Neitherlands:

                                    It’s not only deeply unethical, at least with my particular code of ethics; it’s mindbendingly fuckin’ stupid. What is even the point? If you wanna read 'em because you’re creepy, why post them?

                                    Now that you mention it, you cannot convince me that @inuki is not reading the private scenes players are engaging in on their game.

                                    Not a lot to read, then.

                                    Reading RP others are doing is weird to me. I don’t even like reading published logs.

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                                      Testament @Pavel
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                                      @Pavel Generally I don’t read logs, but I will peruse for mentions.

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                                        Rathenhope @Pavel
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                                        @Pavel said in Neitherlands:

                                        I don’t even like reading published logs.

                                        I don’t even like reading.

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                                          helvetica @Rathenhope
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                                          @Rathenhope said in Neitherlands:

                                          @Pavel said in Neitherlands:

                                          I don’t even like reading published logs.

                                          I don’t even like reading.

                                          I love reading logs. And following other people’s character development. It’s like… why I’m here. And when I’m not allowed to do that…

                                          ominous

                                          …I don’t! Because I’m not a weird little power-mad gremlin.

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                                            ten @helvetica
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                                            @helvetica

                                            same

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