MU* Wishlists

[Faraday]

@Pavel said in MU* Wishlists:

I would argue that the human element is the entire point of a MU*. The fact that you are interacting and collaborating with another human being through the thin veneer of a fictional character is one of the key differentiators between MUing and other forms of gaming.

This.

@shit-piss-love said in MU* Wishlists:

My wish is actually a game that supports PvP very well and not liking someone IC and OOC is considered fine.

I don’t think there’s a game in existence where all the players liked each other OOC. I know I routinely get caught between two friends (or groups of friends) who really can’t stand RPing with each other. And that’s fine - different tastes, different personalities.

But let’s not conflate liking someone with the ability to problem-solve and handle conflicts in a mature manner. They are very different things, and one neither requires nor implies the other. PVE games have stupid schoolyard drama, but PVP games tend to ratchet it up to 11. I just can’t stand dealing with it (as player or as staff).

[Aria]

@Faraday said in MU* Wishlists:

But let’s not conflate liking someone with the ability to problem-solve and handle conflicts in a mature manner. They are very different things, and one neither requires nor implies the other. PVE games have stupid schoolyard drama, but PVP games tend to ratchet it up to 11. I just can’t stand dealing with it (as player or as staff).

This came across my feed the other day and I immediately thought of the MU community:

[junipersky]

Man, I vibe with this.

In kids terms this is also said “they are being mean to me” (and all its variations.) A great deal of the time they aren’t being mean, they just aren’t acting in a way the kid wants them too. So they must be mean.

I don’t think we ever fully grow out of this…

[Pyrephox]

Plz someone make a Contagion Chronicle game: https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/318347/Chronicles-of-Darkness-The-Contagion-Chronicle

More seriously - I think the reason why PvE games are more difficult is that it takes a lot of staff time/energy to keep players with Things to Do, particularly when you have multiple spheres, and while I think there’s a large pool of CoD/WoD players, there is a much, much smaller pool of people willing/able to put in the work to make and actually run a game with the strong horror/PvE focus that would be amazing. And some of the ones who are out there have a tendency to be somewhat emotionally unstable, so it’s a dice roll when it comes to play experience.

I’d really love to see more single-sphere (or Mortal) focused games with staff who were really passionate about running those stories. More often what I see is “here are the most popular spheres or the spheres that people have loudly demanded, anyway, but the game staff actually only feels comfortable doing anything with X and Y sphere, so Z sphere, while technically extant, is basically stuck with whoever decides to take one for the team until they burn out”.

[Livia]

@Pyrephox Contagion Chronicle has some good stuff, though it feels like it would be hard to implement and run! (In a game sense, not code wise) Also the actual God Machine Chronicle stuff has never really been embraced by the CofD MU*ing community, I feel like.

But I did consider it a while back.

[Aria]

@Pyrephox said in MU* Wishlists:

I’d really love to see more single-sphere (or Mortal) focused games with staff who were really passionate about running those stories. More often what I see is “here are the most popular spheres or the spheres that people have loudly demanded, anyway, but the game staff actually only feels comfortable doing anything with X and Y sphere, so Z sphere, while technically extant, is basically stuck with whoever decides to take one for the team until they burn out”.

I have been saying this for literally twenty years. It made sense when I was working on White Wolf’s official game servers that they offered (almost) every splat that they had published because they were ostensibly marketing vehicles for the company and were built to support their product line, but…

After that, it seems like most places just opened up as many spheres as they could manage out of a desire to reach a critical mass of players, whether they could actually serve those spheres well or not. I would really like to see games that are single-sphere or maybe - maaaaaaybe - two or three spheres if they have overlapping themes that will be highlighted in the game’s setting and plot, thereby giving them reasons to be running around in the same spaces.

My kingdom for a Mage: the Awakening 2E game.

[Livia]

I’d really love to see a Vampire and Changeling game using some of the content from Dark Eras 2 – there’s a merit that allows Invictus Oaths to be sworn with Changeling vassals, and I had ideas of setting up the Changeling Freehold courts with an extra court. The vampires aren’t others, they’re just the ‘Night Court’ of the freehold, and are bound up in the freehold oath as well. Probably can’t really embrace all the vampire covenants this way and it changes that game dramatically, but still.

[Autumn]

@Pyrephox said in MU* Wishlists:

I’d really love to see more single-sphere (or Mortal) focused games with staff who were really passionate about running those stories. More often what I see is “here are the most popular spheres or the spheres that people have loudly demanded, anyway, but the game staff actually only feels comfortable doing anything with X and Y sphere, so Z sphere, while technically extant, is basically stuck with whoever decides to take one for the team until they burn out”.

I suspect there’s also a lot of “Well, when the game started, we had someone who was super passionate about running Highlander: The Quickening, but they eventually got overwhelmed with <thing> and had to step down, so now one of the other staff members who isn’t really enthused about it and doesn’t care much for a lot of what Original Highlander Staffer did and honestly doesn’t have the time because of the sphere they’re really interested in running, but we didn’t want to just shut down the sphere and leave all the players who are invested in it in the lurch.”

[Pyrephox]

@Livia I’d love to see a street-level Mortal+Changeling game that focused a lot less on Freehold stuff, and more on God-Machine and fae horror - oneriophages, hedge ghosts, real ghosts, Things Which Should Not Be, etc. Creepy horror stories in dark alleyways and alien Hedge woods, where Mortal stuff receives just as much attention as Lost.

Give me dark cults, and covens of psychics trying to fight back against them with their small magics. Corrupt cops who’ve signed deals with Huntsmen to capture Lost. All of that.

[Eleret]

@Pyrephox said in MU* Wishlists:

Give me dark cults, and covens of psychics trying to fight back against them with their small magics. Corrupt cops who’ve signed deals with Huntsmen to capture Lost. All of that.

I have zero familiarity with the source, but this sounds very interesting!

[Testament]

After watching the recent trailers for Armored Core 6: Fire of Rubicon, I now have a hankering for an Armored Core mush. But I feel like that’s so oddly specific and not your general mech or Gundam based mush, that there likely there likely wouldn’t be a lot of interest in that.

[BloodAngel]

@Testament I would play it!

(Edited for typo)

[SpaceKhomeini]

@Testament

If someone made a grimy-ass Battletech game I’d, well, try to play it but I don’t even know how that sort of thing would work.

Also, no Clans, sorry, even if they have the sexy hardware.

[Jennkryst]

@SpaceKhomeini Literally just Lords and Ladies but in SPAAAAACE, and Mechs instead of full plate.

… but if combat campaigns, Megamech or whatever. The hard part is they don’t have personal-scale rules, though, so it’s tricksy.

[SpaceKhomeini]

@Jennkryst said in MU* Wishlists:

Literally just Lords and Ladies but in SPAAAAACE,

Yes.

[Polk]

Having my deluxe print copy of Victorian Mage 20th, I wish a Victorian Mage game would ever in a million years work.

[Jennkryst]

@SpaceKhomeini said in MU* Wishlists:

@Jennkryst said in MU* Wishlists:

Literally just Lords and Ladies but in SPAAAAACE,

Yes.

Also, I am ready for it .

Maybe I’ll finally get the updated Time of War book, because that selective OCD is hitting hard.

Also Urbanmech Plush, for clout.

[Hobbie]

I’m pretty sure there’s some ancient BattleTech code sitting around out there. I stumbled across it… many many moons ago.

[Jennkryst]

@Hobbie There is BTMux, which is only appealing to people who liked HSpace but thought it didn’t go hard enough. But also BTMux is only mech scale… you can VTOL or tank or squad of ground troops, but no proper aerospace or individual person.

[Cobalt]

I kinda really want an omegaverse/billionaires social game, but I don’t know how I would manage to keep creeps out.

I’ve been reading a lot of silly romance novels about stupid wealthy people and I just wanna swan around pretending I’m rich on a game where it won’t get looked down on because very one else is also pretending to be stupidly wealthy.

But I also want a game with lots of fun (but optional) coded systems that is just enough crunch to sink your teeth into.