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How to Greet a Roster Player
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@farfalla said in How to Greet a Roster Player:
…<snip> So if you join the King’s Own you can look forward to an enthusiastic hello. And some silver, for @helvetica.
Oh, hey, I didn’t know this was an option.
Def greet my new roster with silver, please.
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I feel like often the experiences with roster characters is so scatter shot. Sometimes it goes really well, and sometimes it goes…not great. I’ve personally had mixed results, and a large part of that has to do with who is in the main org your character is apart of.
Is their leaders active?
Are they inclusive?
Does the character have decent connections?
Was the roster ever really played previously?
Did the last player leave notes?
Is their secret even relevant these days?Depending on how you would answer those questions, I think often times will make or break a roster character being hung onto or being hung up or idled out. I once had a character for all of maybe…a few hours? The page seemed interesting, but everything around them once I got the character was not great. So I think often times it really varies, and with that, I think a lot of that fall upon just how active are the org the character is apart of. Is that the case every time? Of course not, but I do often see it as one of the bigger reasons why it doesn’t.
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I used to joke that if Arx retained the @mail between characters that Eiran Laurent would just be a stream of me being like “Hello! This is Cristoph and I…” blah blah blah variations of this, from me trying to catch people. Laurent doesn’t really have much in the way of any rosters for people to pick up anymore, so I’m not going through this so much.
But I’m just burned out on greeting people and never getting a response. So many Eirans, Klauseseses, Cassandras. Or reaching out and seeing when they wanted a scene to get them settled in and getting nothing.
So I think sometimes when you run into that, sometimes it’s just a very tired person that is themselves tired of being silently rejected. I don’t know if there’s a good solution there.
Anyone looking at this thread and commenting to find solutions for the one problem is probably not the kind of player that would ignore a proactive org leader, lol.
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@tsar Well this is more effort than I give, lol. I just… wait until they’re on and page them. Then I make sure they have a room, armor, keys, etc.
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Damned if you page as it can be overwhelming.
Damned if you don’t as you neglect them.
But this is all useful to read, I guess to break this down in 2 sections for interactions on my behalf.
Are you in the org?
When I get a chance a check on the channel if on it, otherwise a page welcoming on in. General check in, how’s life. You know, small talk. Ask if there were anything in particular they wanted to do with the character. In case they already have a whole idea and then how I can help facilitate that if appropriate or applicable.
Then a general check if they have the materials, resources, silver or even the contact to do the above.
Did we previously RP?
Only if there is an OOC post inviting such, will drop a mail with myself copied in (so I can recycle it. Sorry/not sorry.). Will focus it on the “what was the hook here” and basically leave it entirely in their court. Had some absolutely wonderful success with this, better than expected. Maybe 80% of the time no reply but it’s fine. I did my bit.
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@farfalla said in How to Greet a Roster Player:
@tsar Well this is more effort than I give, lol. I just… wait until they’re on and page them. Then I make sure they have a room, armor, keys, etc.
lol I just figured they might want to play with me if they joined the same org! I discovered over time, sometimes they do not.
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@tsar said in How to Greet a Roster Player:
But I’m just burned out on greeting people and never getting a response. So many Eirans, Klauseseses, Cassandras. Or reaching out and seeing when they wanted a scene to get them settled in and getting nothing.
Oh gosh, the amount of people that I have tried to reach out to for some rosters only to get nothing back is very high.
Also: Some of the people who I have the richest backstory with are rosters that tend to turn over frequently, and it gets… Hard. To have the exact same explanatory PREVIOUSLY, ON YOUR CHARACTER… RP when it’s like, the fifth time in a year.
I can’t fathom how much more difficult that must be for people in leadership roles.
Do I still have those scenes? Absolutely. I want people to stick, and have a good time. Genuinely. Every time.
Does it take a toll? Absolutely.
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@tsar said in How to Greet a Roster Player:
But I’m just burned out on greeting people and never getting a response. So many Eirans, Klauseseses, Cassandras. Or reaching out and seeing when they wanted a scene to get them settled in and getting nothing.
I’M SORRY, I MISS HER.
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For Redrain, I have a welcome @mail that changes a little dependent on whether they are a roster or a new OC. The only real change with that is about room arrangements because rosters tend to log into their room, while I have to home-set OCs. It is this:
*Welcome aboard Person!
Your room is the Nifty Bedroom in the Dreamers Hall, which is probably where you connected. There is a villa/ward map located here, for help getting around, as well as some tabs for family trees and fealty chain: (link to spreadsheet) - You will get a weekly allowance that is already set up the bank for you as well.
We have a family/fealty channel called, unsurprisingly, Redrain. You can check out ‘clist’ to see what channels you already may be on and their subscription status (yes, no, muted) - comlist will show the short list of what channels you’re subscribed to and their aliases, if assigned.
Also check out: @bb - this lists all the possible @bboards you can subscribe to, as well as if you are subscribed or not. Help @bb has further info. The News @bb is a good one to add if it’s not on your list already, especially with recent game changes.
House Redrain has a contract with the Whisper House - I can send more info on that if/when you might want the details.
If you are not all that familiar with Redrain, there are a few lore files that might help: Lore Redrain - Lore Redrain Fashion - Lore Principles of the Great Houses. Those three are pretty great! You can find more lore info using lore/search - for example, lore/search shamanism will list the files that reference that particular topic.
The House summary is available on the game via ‘@org redrain’ or on the web at https://play.arxgame.org/topics/org/14/ – @family Person will show you Person’s (perhaps obviously) familial relations.
Finally, this is a great file to read: help relationship continuity – in a nutshell, taking on a roster character has some leeway in regard to the rp done by the previous player(s).
(Note about additional orgs they may be in and who to contact, like Spirit Walkers)
Let us know if you need anything once you’ve got yourself settled and once again, welcome to Redrain!*
So that’s probably a lot, and more than some players need, but I figure that gets them a first ‘hello’ of sorts and then lets them settle in and then reach out when they are ready. Hopefully at least!
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@Tori you’re a good egg
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Could use @mail or something instead of just live paging, maybe?
I know that idea overwhelms me less because it seems very much less RESPOND NOW THEY’RE ONLINE NOW YOU LOOK LIKE AN ASSHOLE IF YOU DON’T SAY SOMETHING RIGHT THE FUCK NOW, comparatively speaking, when I’m already flailing around with no wardrobe and half-done rooms and stuff.
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@Tori Where has this person been all my life?
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Mostly I do an initial greet on channel this way others can welcome new person too. If anyone has been feeling neglected by me recently, I apologize as I have a lot of RL right now that needs my attention.
I will always check in with folks to make sure they have what they need to get started, answer any questions they might have, etc. What I cannot do anymore is hand hold a player through every nitty gritty moment. I’m burned out in that arena, too. While I’ve enjoyed joining orgs that are full, I’ve always chosen a character I thought I would like to play regardless of whether or not their house/org was active. Until very recently my alt’s HoH was mega idle for almost a year, logging in then out every few weeks to avoid idle roster. It was quiet in the org but didn’t make playing my character any less fun. That is always my advice to new players to a roster character; make sure you have fun with your character.
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@Birdie said in How to Greet a Roster Player:
make sure you have fun with your character.
Good advice for anyone, really.
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@Snackness said in How to Greet a Roster Player:
@Birdie said in How to Greet a Roster Player:
make sure you have fun with your character.
Good advice for anyone, really.
Generally, I agree with this.
Unless you’re also some of us weirdos.
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I try to greet new players in my org(s) when I see them. New players excite me because that means new opportunities, or following up on opportunities that might have needed to wait until a particular character was around. I’m also very inclusive in plots and other things I work on and I want to hook them into things right away so they’ll have things to do and stick with the character
My problem is that I get so enthusiastic, that I think I manage to chase half of them away. Or, I overwhelm them with information. So, I’ve cut back on both enthusiasm and information. All of this is in hopes that maybe they’ll want to do something later, but that connection almost never happens. I’m with others; it can become an exhausting cycle that goes on repeat.
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Is this where I admit I rarely have any idea who is on or off roster unless people say hey on channel?
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@Narson Sub to the roster bboard! Now that their email system is working again, you’ll see everyone go on and off the roster.
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Shoutouts to @Meg for greeting me when I took a roster. I wouldn’t have lasted as long as I did without the help!