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A Constructive Arx Thread
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@Mourne Yeah, it can be tough finding something appealing right now. But most characters have a lot of flexibility in them, so if you find someone that makes you think “this would be great other than X” it may be possible to solve that (depending on X, of course). That’s my best advice - it took me a couple months to find my last roster character.
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@Mourne said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
Every time I’ve looked at Arx nobody on roster appealed to me, and apparently, there is no way to make your own character anymore. Or at least there wasn’t when last I looked.
So there is also the SECRET HARD MODE roster. Someone else can find the bb post, but there is a list of characters that have had a tendency to get picked up and rostered shortly because people couldn’t figure out what to do or how to get involved or secret was too complicated.
They do not show up on the Available, Unavailable, or Deceased list, but do show up on family and org lists, if you feel like combing though those instead of checking the bb.
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@Jennkryst said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
So there is also the SECRET HARD MODE roster.
That doesn’t sound like a good idea for someone new to the theme
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@Mourne You can also go on and ask for help on the Guest channel. Say “I would like to play something like XYZ, does anyone have ideas of a character that would fit that?” It’s what I did and Aleksei recommended Eleanor and I’ve had her for five years. Thanks, pal!
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@Mourne said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
@Jennkryst said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
So there is also the SECRET HARD MODE roster.
That doesn’t sound like a good idea for someone new to the theme
My best suggestion is log in as a guest and find a staffer and/or a player on the guest channel that’s available for a more indepth conversation of what kinds of things you like to play – and see if somebody can point you towards something that a- fits at least close, and b- has a support structure around it that will make being new to the theme easier.
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I appreciate all the advice. I might take a shot but I worry that is what is on the roster is all there is… I’m one of those people who do excessive reading on a new game. I dug through all the youngish male characters (As I definitely do not want to play an old person who should be way more knowledgeable than I will be) on the roster.
I will give it a shot when I am feeling more willing to accept disappointment.
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What the others have said! Sometimes rosters get marked Inactive instead of put back on the roster for various reasons, but staff might put them up for application at request, depending on the situation. Like, in my glancing at that Roster Audit list, there’s definitely some really fun PCs in there.
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The audit list is also 8 months old, so a few have been picked up since then.
Truly the best way to find someone is to ask… also just wing it if you happen to pick up a theology 5 character. I include lots of ‘character smart, player dumb’ in my rp, and it seems to keep too many issues from springing up.
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@Mourne said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
person who should be way more knowledgeable than I will be
I know that this is a matter of personal preference so I’m not trying to say you should change how you react to it, but, you don’t gotta know, nobody is going to expect that you know, and people are SUPER COOL with being helpful. There’s a channel to ask about stuff on, and if you make it clear you are open to feedback to people, they will (generally helpfully, even!) educate you as-you-go. Extra info in poses and stuff. Nobody comes in knowing.
The problems and complaining you hear about this stuff is 100% people who proceed on assumptions without being open to feedback, and when advice or guidance is offered, it gets pushback from them, or they double down, or they argue. If you go ‘oh hey I didn’t actually know dresses aren’t gendered clothing items, lemme repose’ in the moment, repose, and then don’t double down on dresses being gendered later…you’ll be FINE.
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Learning is a big part of it, and there… is actually a maybe in-setting explanation for people getting amnesia here and there to explain different players picking up the character and playing them different. I COULD BE WRONG, but that feels like an IC reason why they have journals - so if amnesia happens, the character can read about things they thought were important and forgot about.
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That’s another thing, I generally dislike Rosters because I find it hard to get invested in a character that isn’t ‘mine’. The character is going to be played differently, the previous players may have enjoyed RP types that I do not, there may very well be a huge sense of just disconnect and inconsistency it worries me.
I am not saying that this is what is going to happen, just that it is a concern, and a worry, and why I would prefer to make my own character or… at least be a character that grabs me as interesting straight off rather than just being ‘This is the scraps of what we have, good luck.’
I hope I have not offended.
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@Birdie said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
@Jennkryst I think that if you see a character you like that is on the audit list, you can request to apply for them. Perhaps even help with said audit? For example I have a couple of cousins on the audit list for my alt. If someone was interested in either of them, I would be happy to help them settle in, etc. You can check with the active family members of characters you might be interested in for their input.
Yeah, this is fine. I moved characters into waiting rewrites because I was like, ‘this is a character where if a new player grabbed them, they would probably idle out because of X reasons’, not because like I hate the character. So if someone wants to play it, go nuts. Just please don’t because you’re like, ‘I want that family member played’ because the character would likely just not be great for a new player and it’ll be hard to keep them.
Philosophically this is usually because a character is missing something. I personally have found characters that were absurdly active and have 10 million pages of things they have done to not be nearly as problematic as someone with nothing there. While yeah some people get overwhelmed and say ‘nah fam’, it’s usually more likely they stick with them.
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@Jennkryst said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
Learning is a big part of it, and there… is actually a maybe in-setting explanation for people getting amnesia here and there to explain different players picking up the character and playing them different. I COULD BE WRONG, but that feels like an IC reason why they have journals - so if amnesia happens, the character can read about things they thought were important and forgot about.
You are right that there is a metaplot reason why the game’s society has forgotten certain aspects of their history and world (specifically magical/supernatural things), plus the more concrete/mundane reason that the original big archive of knowledge was destroyed a few hundred years back. However, the practice of writing journals is, as far as I know, not related to that and almost surely predates it, as much as there’s just thematic intertwining between matters of knowledge vs ignorance. Journaling as a practice is part of the overall domain of Vellichor, the God of Knowledge, as part of the religious mandate to preserve knowledge in general.
@Mourne said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
That’s another thing, I generally dislike Rosters because I find it hard to get invested in a character that isn’t ‘mine’. The character is going to be played differently, the previous players may have enjoyed RP types that I do not, there may very well be a huge sense of just disconnect and inconsistency it worries me.
I am not saying that this is what is going to happen, just that it is a concern, and a worry, and why I would prefer to make my own character or… at least be a character that grabs me as interesting straight off rather than just being ‘This is the scraps of what we have, good luck.’
I hope I have not offended.
I for one am not offended! It’s a common concern shared by a lot of players, being a bit nervous about rosters and such. There are a lot of really good rosters that have been written over the years, and the ones on the roster audit list are by no means all there because they’re uninteresting characters. There are a lot of characters in there with a lot of meat, so my hope would be that, if you were to pop on the game and share some of the overall hopes you have in mind for a character, that someone might be able to pull some options up that would grab your interest.
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@Roz said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
You are right that there is a metaplot reason why the game’s society has forgotten certain aspects of their history and world (specifically magical/supernatural things), plus the more concrete/mundane reason that the original big archive of knowledge was destroyed a few hundred years back. However, the practice of writing journals is, as far as I know, not related to that and almost surely predates it, as much as there’s just thematic intertwining between matters of knowledge vs ignorance. Journaling as a practice is part of the overall domain of Vellichor, the God of Knowledge, as part of the religious mandate to preserve knowledge in general.
But who is to say that it was not created as a religious mandate specifically because random bits of collective amnesia is the norm in-setting?!?
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I mean, I’m just being silly at this point with it, but it also kind of works. JUST LIKE MY CALENDAR CONSPIRACY THEORY!
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@Jennkryst said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
@Roz said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
You are right that there is a metaplot reason why the game’s society has forgotten certain aspects of their history and world (specifically magical/supernatural things), plus the more concrete/mundane reason that the original big archive of knowledge was destroyed a few hundred years back. However, the practice of writing journals is, as far as I know, not related to that and almost surely predates it, as much as there’s just thematic intertwining between matters of knowledge vs ignorance. Journaling as a practice is part of the overall domain of Vellichor, the God of Knowledge, as part of the religious mandate to preserve knowledge in general.
But who is to say that it was not created as a religious mandate specifically because random bits of collective amnesia is the norm in-setting?!?
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I mean, I’m just being silly at this point with it, but it also kind of works. JUST LIKE MY CALENDAR CONSPIRACY THEORY!
because there’s more contextual info you can find about the how and when of all of it that and also because i must treat all serious queries like they are appearing on the info channel and ruin all subsequent jokes
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@Roz rozzes gonna roz
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@Mourne said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
That’s another thing, I generally dislike Rosters because I find it hard to get invested in a character that isn’t ‘mine’. The character is going to be played differently, the previous players may have enjoyed RP types that I do not, there may very well be a huge sense of just disconnect and inconsistency it worries me.
I am not saying that this is what is going to happen, just that it is a concern, and a worry, and why I would prefer to make my own character or… at least be a character that grabs me as interesting straight off rather than just being ‘This is the scraps of what we have, good luck.’
I hope I have not offended.
Not offended at all!!! Not at all.
https://play.arxgame.org/topics/Relationship Continuity/
That’s relevant.
When you take it? It’s YOUR character. People will work with you to make it work for you, and if they refuse to, other people will help. With sticks, if needed.
eta: I feel the need to caveat ‘within reason’, here. There are rules regarding dramatic changes and as the linked file says, if it’s written down it’s written down. But all of these things fall ‘within reason’, imnsho.
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@IoleRae said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
That’s relevant.
When you take it? It’s YOUR character. People will work with you to make it work for you, and if they refuse to, other people will help. With sticks, if needed.
eta: I feel the need to caveat ‘within reason’, here. There are rules regarding dramatic changes and as the linked file says, if it’s written down it’s written down. But all of these things fall ‘within reason’, imnsho.
I perhaps have the worst timing. I did find one roster whom looked interesting but someone apparently app’d them before I did so I lost out. Which is fine. First come first serve or they (most likely) had the better app as since I am new to the game the idea of:
How will you add RP to the game?
Answer should always be: By RP’ing with others.
The only other character on the list (outside those blacklist people I haven’t looked at if I am being completely honest) apparently is deeply in love with his spouse, who is not currently played (And I don’t know if I would be /more/ or /less/ comfortable trying to play the character if she was). So it makes it… Ugh.
I’ll just wait until I can try to make my own character I think.
Thanks for all the suggestions
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@Mourne said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
I perhaps have the worst timing. I did find one roster whom looked interesting but someone apparently app’d them before I did so I lost out. Which is fine. First come first serve or they (most likely) had the better app as since I am new to the game the idea of:
How will you add RP to the game?
Answer should always be: By RP’ing with others.
Thanks for all the suggestions
…this is all I’ve ever really said when I’ve apped a roster, just in more words. I think you and Arx are on the same page there, tbh.
Either way, I hope you find SOMETHING! You seem pretty okay, and you spell things right, and you think in whole thoughts, etc
