Somehow, Kissinger is still alive…
BUT!
Somehow, Kissinger is still alive…
BUT!
BRB making a few alt accounts to upvote all my own posts, since all you cowards refuse to give me enough microdoses of dopamine.
(:Public:) Ax (A) is curious what Kasia/Zephyr did that was bad enough to have not only her, but those people associated with her get their alts destroyed and their primary characters (some of who were on vacation) sent to the Old Guard Lounge and @passworded? Is that the new standard of dealing with people who investigate claims of sexual harassment here? Burn them and their associates? I’m just curious
(:Public:) Cujo says, “Ax, you don’t care about any of those things.”
(:Public:) Cujo says, “If you did, you’d put in a request to talk privately.”
(:Public:) Cujo says, “But you didn’t do that, you posted it publicly because you want to make a huge show of things.”
(:Public:) Cujo sayz, “So now you’re banned from this channel, well done.”
DO NOT SPEAK OUT, OR YOU WILL BE SILENCED, etc etc. Shocker.
@Pavel said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@SqeakyClean said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@DarthSmegma said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
The staff just imperiously announced ‘We’re skipping ahead fifteen years so that Rey and Ben Solo can have lots of babies! If you don’t like it, leave!’
Actually, it’s Rey and Poe’s babies on Age of Kora. Poe, played by Sumi’s player.
Still a better match IMHO.
POE IS MARRIED TO FINN, AND NOTHING JJ OR DISNEY SAYS WILL CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE.
Since Derp and Ghost keep bringing it up, I’ll repeat a point I’ve made before:
People are going to keep talking about the community being hijacked, because at the end of the day, before any of this happened, any of YOU who feel the need to talk about bullies being mean - YOU could have made your own board, and made it however you wanted.
Instead, you decided to change the rules of the board we were all on and throw anyone who disagreed out. Which is the root of it all. And you know it. Because you keep bringing up how we went somewhere else and made the rules we wanted.
And it’s pretty fucked up how you keep rewriting history to justify the decision.
Another person banned for person attacks, despite making fewer personal attacks than Ghost. Maybe it was the big words?
Of course, they had to ban @Kestrel. You showed up with receipts about their hypocrisy. 12/10. Would also upvote if I could.
The new argument that this is merely the result of wanting more moderation and people are just mad that they are being moderated (because they’re super hypocrites and are now getting theirs), sure is a take.
People wanted moderation to fork threads or move them to different boards, and to ban the rapists or that one guy who sprouts up every couple months and tries to set everything on fire. So technically yes, more moderation was wanted.
But it is an extremely bad faith reading that the logical conclusion is ‘ban everyone who dares to speak out’. Pretty against the spirit of the job that was asked to be done, you might say.
I do care that VulgarKitten lied to those people, and I feel for them, particularly one who I personally admire who was really hurt by the lies. More importantly, she is sorry about it.
If she is actually sorry about it, perhaps she should admit that and apologize, and not pretend to be a totally different, literally new person, which fits the profile of the issues in the first place?
@helvetica said in Bannings:
VK/Hella
I didn’t know who Hella was. lmaoooooo
Yeah, she literally changed her username and started pretending to be a new person right after the banning- spree, and nobody has called her out on it.
@Roadspike said in Bannings:
@farfalla Ares logs are system-created and (to my knowledge) can’t be edited. I would probably take a regular log too, but that would mean I was playing on a non-Ares game, and ain’t nobody got time to go technologically backwards.
Yeah, they can’t be edited unless you’re a coder, because they come straight from the database and not a player’s computer.
THAT JUST PROVES THE CODER IS IN ON THE CHEMTRAIL FLOURIDE CONSPIRACY TO MAKE PEOPLE LOOK BAD BECAUSE THEY ARE AN ENEMY OF THE CLIQUE!!!111!!1!ONE!!!111ELEVEN!
@eddie said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
I came into the conversation here because no one spoke about what was good about AoA, as it all seemed oriented toward the bad.
… so first off, this is the ‘here are the problems with this game’ board, we have a whole other section for ‘here are good things I like about it, please join us!’
… but also fuck it, I’LL BITE.
AoA has a lot going for it. It has that 1:1 chargen/on-grid XP thing I am obsessed with and demand every game I play on adopt a version of. It has pretty detailed equipment rules, and the back-end with +attack code helps make plots easy enough. Bonus points in that it was the first mush I ever was remotely active and engaged on when I was a baby-musher in the mid 00s. So I do have NOSTALGIA working for me. And the best part, they have my obsession, MUMMIES coded space flight/trading lulz.
Actually, scratch that, SpaceMummies also exist in Star Wars.
So it seems weird that I’m not playing in it actively, when at a glance, it looks like it is 120% MY JAM.
The 1:1 chargen/on-grid code is also what they used on SerenityMU. But instead of capping out at 40, it goes to 125. Re: SerenityMU: the RNG is also weird when you dig into it, so running plots is actually a lot more complicated than you thought. Especially if you want to do something outside of what is coded. And good luck getting something added to the code.
Nostalgia is cool, but good memories also mean bad memories, like instead of addressing one problem player, they created THE HATCHBACK, which was a cursed spaceship that would deal damage to the person flying it, and if you used the wrong exit, would RANDOMLY (not always) drop you out the airlock onto the landing pad of wherever the ship was located. Or, if not landed, into SPACE.
So instead of telling a problem player to cut the shit, they bullied him to try and get him to leave. This not only did not drive the problem player off, but dude doubled down on everyone else.
See also: EARN YOUR FORCE USER, PROVE YOU ARE WORTHY! We have that discussion every now and again, but AoA is the game I was so invested in, I earned a Force user on three separate occasions; the first two I lost due to being on @vacation for summer-long competitive marching band shenanigans, and I lost the third when the game died in like… 2011.
…
So yeah. Like all games, it has fun potential. Would I go back if everything about Cujo and Hadrix gets disproven?
Why would I do that, when the Chontio code for Ares is public, and I am already working on trying to get Arx in my Star Wars and go full tilt with rosters and whatnot?
@eddie said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
I appreciate the candid responses, and the opportunity to provide a puzzle for the would-be predators to identify who I might or might not be. It’s interesting to see a community that lifts up victims of alleged transgressions, then go on a witch hunt in an attempt to identify any of those who would disagree with the narrative and go against the grain.
Oh, it’s because they get stuff from the admins.
Oh, it’s because they stand to benefit from receiving fake currency.
Oh, it’s because they get political capital in a game.
Oh, it’s because they stand to benefit from the friendship of a person they’re never likely to meet.
You sure you want to go this route? Plenty of us were taking you at your word, but jumping into attack mode starts painting the same picture as when you were shouting about echo chambers. Which is to say… you’re actions aren’t disproving their argument, it’s giving evidence in support of it.
eta: … So I just remembered that the Hatchback also had a dead clown in the pilot’s seat. No, you couldn’t change the @desc of the room yourself, nor could you convince staff to change it for you, so you had to sit in the clown’s lap to fly.
This thread started 14 days ago. It is impossible for people who were active up until that time, or even since then, to have ‘idled-out’ into retirement, since Cujo himself just said it takes 30 days before they retire the character.
Furthermore. Retired characters simply have their wiki pages marked as ‘retired’/removed from the active roster. (Clarification - this may have actually been a player wiping their own page. That list of 'wiki changed, log of change removed- is still suspicious)
… Unless they were retired because of this. THOSE people got their wiki pages completely blanked out.
You aren’t even trying.
Edit to add clarification, may have been player wiping their own page.
@Polk The whole thread is not moved, the relevant posts can be individually forked over to a new appropriate thread, as needed.
I’m just taking it as a good sign that there is at least one years+ lurker who has come out of nowhere, with no skin in any game, to point out how fucked it all was. And I’m hoping others follow suit.
We’ve got over a hundred folks here who came over, and sure some are probably on both still, but like. That’s 100+ people who aren’t sticking their head in the sand and pretending shit didn’t happen.
They want their ‘helpful community’ where nobody can use vulgarity and trying to warn others about a predator in their midst is a personal attack and you will be warned to not make a stir. It’s like how Hot Fuzz had that illusion of 0 crime rate! But like… where actual harm can happen!
I dunno, I got rambling and then distracted at work, and forgot where I was going with this.
Devrex, my dude. MSB goes dark and nobody posts anything in the thread for days. Like the whole forum shuts down. And then Ghost or someone has to chime in and lie about something or, as you say, poke poke poke poke poke until someone who still has faith in MSB logs on to defend against lies or obviously personal vague attacks.
If you want PEACE AND QUIET, you need to look to the people still there whomst are allowed to continually break the rules with no consequences.
@Tez said in An Arx Peeve Thread:
@Jennkryst said in An Arx Peeve Thread:
all the unholy seekrit majikul powerz, and and and…
Wait, I KNOW THIS ONE. It has to do with extra nipples, right?
This is fine, I GUESS, but only if I can go full Total Recall with it.
@eddie said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@Meg Why would I out myself to a group of people who would like to target and victimize me?
Nobody is asking for your birth certificate, SSN, or even personal e-mail. Just ‘you are defending the situation, what is your relationship to the accused’… to get back to that court example you brought up, you are in a position to be a character witness!
Truth of the matter is I am the victim of a number of different instances of manipulation and sexual misconduct. Not just on that game, but a number of other venues. Was it by the alleged you named? No. There are other players though who do.
Sure would be easy to name those other characters. Not that you have to. But this goes to show that an environment of sex pest-ery is present. And, if you had reported them and Cujo did nothing about it… this is evidence that would further support the claim that Cujo stands by and does nothing about this sort of thing. (Lack of reporting is addressed later)
I was mislead into believing that my rp would equate to something of a strong story between one character and my own, for instance, and devoted a lot of time and effort into the development of that narrative. That included in-game currency, assets you have to travel around, find and buy, and modifications to make those assets function more efficiently when they are used.
I invested those things into the person I was playing opposite of only to have them pit me against another player to compete for their attention. Not just the intimate rp, but story we had spent hours developing and writing out. It all got thrown away in an instant, and the assets I invested with walked away with no ROI because I refused to compete, on an OOC level, with another player for something I felt I had earned and put the time into to warrant.
I was manipulated and used, then thrown away like trash from an OOC perspective.
I had another instance where I played with another player that I made clear I do not impart aspects about myself into the intimate rp that they engage in. It is a matter of comfort for me to not allow predators to cling to things like that. Despite my best attempts at keeping this separate, this married man continued to tell me things in OOC about how these scenes and actions were intended for me OOC, and how he hoped I ‘got something from it.’
Unwanted, and unwarranted, and I felt targeted as a victim. I assume in those regards, how would I feel comfortable levying complaints to staff that I had been duped, and manipulated?
Regarding AoA, I think there’s a nuanced community within the community itself that are not all that bad. That’s not dismissing the issues that came up in this topic, but it’s more to the fact that everywhere has issues. Concerning those alleged in this topic, they were not contributors to my own experience. I certainly think there could be a quicker process to out predators much like I experienced, but the question comes in how to negotiate that, or present in a manner much like those presented in this topic. ‘Things can be doctored’, ‘images can be altered’.
So I never outed them because there was no sure way to say, this happened to me. My own experiences aren’t just based out of the aforementioned venue though, I could certainly share more. I think open commentary like this does help in a therapeutic way, airing and such.
These things do, in fact, suck. I’m sorry you had to go through with them, anywhere. WEIRD that you open with the ECHO CHAMBER comment when your own testimony acknowledges this sort of thing does happen on places. But weird things happen. I said before, staff on all games have a responsibility to investigate these things, in part because of the various game +policies in place (we’ll come back to that in a minute). But each of these can be addressed on their own in a different thread, if the players and/or these games are still active and a potential threat.
Also mentioned earlier - Penn provides simple tools to investigate with. And in fact, AoA’s policies agree with me! See, I told you we’d come back to +policies in a minute.
(Typos in the policy are from me copy/pasting from the game, blame them, not me!)
ADMIN RIGHTS AND RULES
Rule #2: The administration will make all attempts to listen to and act upon the suggestions of the playerbase, especially where grievances are concerned.
Rule #3: The administration must investigate all matters of impropriety, and this may demand DARK observation of players in private areas. Staff members will sparingly employ such observation when needed.
And
GENERAL PLAYER/ADMIN RIGHTS AND RULES
RUle #1: All players and administrators of this mush have the right to safety from harrassment. Harrassment of any nature is strictly prohibited on SW:AoA, and is grounds for disciplinary action. Should your comments draw a request to cease and decist from any member of this game, that is your one warning. Please comply.
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Rule #4: Players have the right to privacy while they are in NON-PUBLIC (player owned, in fact or name) areas. This means a staff member must announce his presence if he intends to observe RP while DARK, and must reasonably consider requests for further privacy. PLAYERS UNDER SUSPICION OF HAVING VIOLATED THE CODE OF CONDUCT DO NOT SHARE THIS RIGHT TO PRIVACY.
So.
Staff agrees that players have the right to be safe from harrassment (sp), and that they MUST investigate any accusation of impropriety, and take action against any who violate policy. If staff does not, they are violating their own rules, which… what trust is left at that point?
@hellfrog said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
add “every time someone says they have all the great IDEAS for a game, they just need someone to do all the code” to the drinking game
edit to add: I will code it, but someone has to teach me how to do it… problem is, I’m a kinesthetic learner, so like… assigning me homework/pages to read will teach me nothing.
Also, I’m not saying my ideas are great… but they are definitely not as shit as spying on TS when I would obviously be invited to join, so
@Das-Auto said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@Jennkryst said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@Wizz That whole thing with Boba being THE BEST gonna get disproven repeatedly, since Din is objectively the most Mandalorian to ever Mand’alor
About that.
Cujo plays Din Djarin as well.