Numetal/Retromux
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@MisterBoring To be fair, I made the long response to a bunch of lies from Sephiroth about how things were handled OOC. I talked a little shit, but it was minimal a month or so ago. The lies about me from staff really pissed me off so I came back with receipts. Realistically, I should’ve just not logged in again and left the convo but hey. At least its some entertainment for ya’ll.
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But nobody knew or gave a shit dude so why did you even bother?
OH NO MY MUSH REPUTATION IS RUINEDEvery game i join they’re going to remember that i was vincent because some obscure asshole on a game of pretend for adults who calls himself the ONE WINGED ANGEL wrote a waterfall of text most people probably didn’t even read
I better build a whole stage production to defend myself and confirm that I am this person
Next time just keep your eye on the prize and say “Who I am or am not is irrelevant to the point I’m making.” Sephiroth (cue music) didn’t do himself ANY favors by trying to discredit you because a valid statement is not invalidated by who happens to say it, so he cheapened his entire point by stapling on AND ALSO YOU SMELL BAD. Shoulda just let his own self-undermining have done all the work.
Man If I played that character you could not have waterboarded the truth out of me.
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@LeeRoyBatty Good point, it really wasn’t worth it, I let his bullshit lies get to me. Should have just kept my peace and not come back to this thread
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@LeeRoyBatty Still though, I hope it shined a little light on the bullshit that happens on that game and people learn to stay away. My life has been a whole lot better out of MUSH in general, even reliving this excruciating experience has been awful.
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@Cygnus I am still desperate to know how you introduced yourself to the werwolves. We know the elysium half of the story but please indulge me about the other. Maybe you already said it and I was wildly distracted
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@Cygnus So would you pull this shit at someone’s kitchen table? Or do you just think that because a game is online that the ‘DMs’ have to play by your rules?
The game is the table of the DM and STs who need to make choices for the table as a whole for the game they are creating and the story they are telling.
So far my experience is that if a character isn’t or won’t work with the story they are telling they’ll help you with a concept that will work offering advice and tweaks to ensure inclusion. In my case that’s exactly what they did with patience and assistance when I admitted my math brain is shit.
I’m sorry your experience was so… well… chaotic. It definitely seems you were getting mixed signals. But seriously step back and reflect a bit on how you’d approach a dm who is taking time and investing into building a game.
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@Cygnus said in Numetal/Retromux:
@LeeRoyBatty I let his bullshit lies get to me
Wait, bullshit lies, where’s the lie?
Let me re-read this shit. He said Eddie being a sex pest has not been reported with proof. So far as I can tell, this is true. His banning was due to harrassment that was not sexual in nature AFAICT. It’s on their bbposts still, actually. That doesn’t mean that therefore Eddie is an angel, it just means that Sephiroth said Eddie isn’t a sex pest, he’s an asshole.
He then said Chaos and the rest of staff are not sex pests. Chaos calling you cute is definitely inappropriate, but I can’t say that that behavior rises to “sex pest” material, especially given that it’s all you presented, so I see no pattern. You do say “he deleted several of his weirder DMs” and that may be true, but you could also just be saying that. and Sephiroth can’t know what’s in your personal DM history with Chaos in order to lie about it so there’s no “lie” here of Sephiroth’s to get heated about.
He said that he’s not TSing. Personally I’m happy taking that at face value because it’s not a reasonable concern to maintain. I have neither the time, inclination, nor the methods to make sure that staffers are not fucking. Or if they must, at least fucking me and lavishing me with attention (in the missionary position under the auspices of holy matrimony for the procreation of children in God’s holy name, Jesus be praised)
He questioned whether you had receipts re: outing people as trans, said to his knowledge no transphobia has occurred…
And then he said “Also you smell bad therfore your argument is invalid” in so many words, but rather he said “I bet you’re Vincent” which you confirmed in spades
And then he said “Vincent was a Gangrel/kinfolk super special snowflake vampire”
which you confirmed“complete with shifter rites”
which you confirmed“that he got approved by utilizing a friend who was on staff that he regularly plays Dungeons and Dickheads with via discord.”
which you refuted so I’ll take you at face value that this was a lieThen he said “Vincent has what we call Main Character Syndrome”
Which you have unsuccessfully argued against and I maintain is trueAnd then he goes and tells his lens on the exact same story you told (I had this kinfolk vampire who was accepted by neither side)
You also confirmed that staffers “stood up for you to let it continue to play out ICly” (Sephiroth’s phrasing) and given your play by play of how you presented yourself to the vampires, even without Eddie being a shitbag, Ray Charles could see how that was going to go from the ISS.
He claimed that you had a buddy introduce a special plot where you turn into a mortal and they shot it down, you seem to think that Golconda turns you into a mortal, it doesn’t. It just makes your beast go into remission TLDR. You still are undead/wyrm-tainted.
And then he said he refused to give you further special favors like “Extra XP to acquire more ridiculous powers, above what the templates called for”
So I mean, no, I don’t think you let Sephiroth’s “lies” get to you unless it REALLY GOT UNDER YOUR SKIN that the SPECIFIC DETAIL OF WHO APPROVED your clusterfuck of a character mattered enough to write a goddamn thesis. I still maintain Sephiroth cheapened his point by pointing out your own flawed actions, but don’t get it twisted. He ain’t lyin’. ESH, Reddit, ESH.
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@Cygnus said in Numetal/Retromux:
@Gashlycrumb Looking back, maybe it shouldn’t have been approved. And not because of the concept, but because people have been playing this game for thirty years and get mad when anything outside the norm is introduced. It’s probably impossible to get around this, sadly.
Honestly, bro, it sounds like you are the reason why.
It’s one thing to play the outside-the-norm character and this is another thing.
From what’s been said here, what you’ve done is like, oh, if we were watching that scene from Reservior Dogs where they meet in the diner, right, but it goes:
Mr. Orange (Tim Roth): I’m an undercover cop. And I have a bit of a crush on Harvey Keitel over there.
Then Nick Cave starts singing “Where do we go now but nowhere?”
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I’ve been a little over a year nicotine free but it’s threads like these that make me want to light up a pipe, lean back, and think wistfully on those days gone by…
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WOD was a mistake.
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Hey @LeeRoyBatty, when can we run a FATAL game?
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@Pavel
well i haven’t coded in the anal circumference inference model yet so we’re looking at at LEAST Q4 -
@labsunlimited I’ve had a lot of fun with it, but that was many years ago. Lots of people still want to play and not all of them are assholes, but it seems to have it’s own quite specific community problems in MUSHland.
Might be one, and thank you Mr. Coen.
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I have to say I did eventually give this place a try, and I didn’t have the greatest time with the staff there either.
I didn’t interact with Vincent, but I do remember seeing Eddie’s player being absolutely awful to him on the channel. To be clear, that player was not permanently banned for harassment (which is how I would interpret “banned” in my thought) but instead was temporarily banned for one week.
I did mostly enjoy my time on this game, and the players were a lot of fun, even if my time there ended on a sour note. My findings were that the staff are very interested and supportive, until they decide not to be any more, after which it took a rather sharp downturn.
