I want to continue work on my own MUD, but...

[Faraday]

If you’re learning coding from scratch (or mostly so), I’d recommend checkout Evennia. It’s a more modern platform for building MUs, including MUDs. It’s in python rather than C++, so you’re going to find a lot more resources and tools for it and most folks find it easier to learn. Evennia also has good documentation for the MU side, and a helpful community.

[Pavel]

+1 to the Evennia suggestion. I don’t use it myself, but even I (thick as porridge as I am) can knock up some half-decentish python in an afternoon after watching some tutorials on the internets.

[messyshiloh]

@Faraday @Pavel Haven’t really gotten around to properly reading all the replies and suggestions… but!

…the codebase is already there and quite a bit of work has already been done on it internally. The mud is also already hosted, though it is in very early stages, not meant to have players yet. The work that has been done on it was code related, but the rest of the mud will look very stock. I’m not looking for a new codebase, I just want to be able to identify what I have and learn enough to be able to continue working on that.

I haven’t yet gotten around to looking at the files that were suggested to me and probably won’t be able to til later today, but I appreciate everyone’s replies!

[Polk]

@Pavel Yes, I’m finding Evennia very well made. It’s easy to get Python learning materials, too.

[Faraday]

@messyshiloh said in I want to continue work on my own MUD, but...:

…the codebase is already there and quite a bit of work has already been done on it internally.

One thing to consider though… incomplete work isn’t necessarily that useful to you. Deciphering someone else’s half-done code can actually be a lot more difficult and time-consuming than starting from scratch and building the skills you need to maintain it long-term. Finding MU coders and tutorials for MU code is hard; finding someone who knows Python or Python tutorials is far easier.

But ultimately that’s a judgement call only you can make. Best of luck to you either way.

[messyshiloh]

@Jennkryst Quite mud-y! It’s intended to be a roleplay enforced mud, but yes, it does have combat and does have mobs and all that, not so much mush-y, code wise.

I sent you a dm chat thing yesterday asking about some posts of yours I saw, concerning you working on something too? I’d be interested to hear about that or chat about it, if you’re willing.

I apologize if I broke etiquette/any rule for sending a private chat without asking first, I’m just so used to being a lurker and on the shy side that writing publicly makes me anxious. Took me like a month to get the courage to write this topic and then like two more weeks to actually write and submit it. lol

[Cobalt]

@messyshiloh If you’re more interested in the theme and don’t mind using a different system you could go with Ares. You don’t have to know too much code to get one of those working, just be comfortable editing configuration files.

But it is FS3, and you’d have to figure out how to put in jedi powers.

[Tributary]

@Cobalt Chontio was Ares with the Star Wars… you know, I dunno what system it was, but it was very Star Wars. It was cool, though!

[Faraday]

@Tributary Ares doesn’t really work well for MUD-like environments.

Chontio was indeed Star Wars with FS3, but it was very freeform/RP-centric. And IIRC they didn’t have Jedi. FS3 is not built for superpowered characters like Jedi.

I would suggest Evennia over Ares for the goals the OP described.

[Pavel]

While I don’t want to shut down the discussion of alternatives, I will say that SWR (and its offshoots) already has everything built in. It has combat, it has force powers, and ships, and lasers and lightsabers; it has basically everything one needs except the world. Install the codebase, connect, build up places to be and things to kill (and vendors and suchlike) and you’re set.

[Faraday]

@Pavel said in I want to continue work on my own MUD, but...:

it has basically everything one needs except the world. Install the codebase, connect, build up places to be and things to kill (and vendors and suchlike) and you’re set.

Oh, that’s cool. But I’m a little confused - if everything you need is already built in, why would OP need to learn coding?

[Pavel]

@Faraday said in I want to continue work on my own MUD, but...:

@Pavel said in I want to continue work on my own MUD, but...:

it has basically everything one needs except the world. Install the codebase, connect, build up places to be and things to kill (and vendors and suchlike) and you’re set.

Oh, that’s cool. But I’m a little confused - if everything you need is already built in, why would OP need to learn coding?

Well, grid building and mob scripting aren’t as simple as MUSH/MUX softcode that does the same thing. At least as far as I can recall, it has been decades since I last tinkered with it.

There’s also, again as far as I’m aware, no softcode equivalent so everything special you want for your own game has to be written in C/C++.

So it really depends on what one would want to do with the game. If you want a bog standard SWR experience, then you don’t need a coder per se, just some time with the mob scripts.

[Jennkryst]

@messyshiloh No etiquette issues, I got got distraction-squirreled.

I was trying to get an FFG code based up in Evennia, but it kept throwing errors and I should maybe get back to trying to figure it out, buuuuuuut there is a Battletech kickstarter that has been eating up all my attention while I try to sort out what paints go where.