@Roadspike said in Other People:
@Roz said in Other People:
the absolute worst thing you can be on a MU* is average height
I… actually like to be within the realm of average height on MU*s (most of the time, not always). Then again, I’m also the guy who likes playing by-the-book pilots, Stormtroopers, and other characters who could be “generic” if not for how they’re played.
you are taking the joke too seriously
@MisterBoring said in Bad Stuff Happening IC:
@Yam said in Bad Stuff Happening IC:
I think negative bleed is less of a problem than someone just being a butt about things.
I sort of disagree with this, but I think it’s because different people and groups handle negative bleed differently.
Some circles take negative bleed and resolve it in a healthy manner, so it’s not a big problem.
Other groups (including a few major LARP organizations I can think of) seem to delight in using negative bleed to drive perceived rivals away to make sure their characters are dominant in all situations.
that’s literally what yam was saying though: the issue isn’t the feeling itself, it’s if people act like a butt because of the feeling. you could be feeling bleed like CRAZY, utterly miserable because of the stuff happening to your character, but also being self-aware enough to take a break and keep it off the game and away from the other players
“handling negative bleed differently” is the point
@Faraday Oh yeah, of course, it’s not ANY sort of maladaptive behavior in any sort of game. Crashing out over losing Fortnite isn’t the same thing, you’re right. Bleed is something specific to these sorts of situations where we’re identifying with characters we’re actively writing the stories of. It’s a phenomenon in RP spaces specifically because of the nature of the hobby and playing characters the way we do.
@Faraday said in Bad Stuff Happening IC:
@Roz said in Bad Stuff Happening IC:
I think bleed — by which I just mean having an emotional response to RP or IC events that is bad enough to feel harmful or maladaptive in some fashion, stuff that goes beyond the standard sort of emotional reaction you’d have to fiction – is incredibly common. Like, the vast majority of RPers will experience it in some fashion at one point or another.
That’s an interesting perspective. I’m not sure that I define “bleed” the same way, because I think the line between “standard sort of emotional reaction to fiction” and “maladaptive” is not well-defined.
People have emotional responses to fiction. People have emotional responses to gaming. It’s natural that someone is going to have emotional responses to fiction-gaming. I don’t personally call that “bleed”.
Bleed to me is when you fail to keep a healthy boundary between you and the character. Like when I cry at Titanic, it’s not because I think I’m Rose. It’s not because I’m over-empathizing with the character, or her emotions are bleeding into mine. It’s just a tragic story. Whereas I see bleed as transferring the character’s emotions onto your own to an unhealthy degree.
Yeah, I think you’re saying everything I was saying. People having emotional reactions to fiction is exactly what I meant when I said that “the standard sort of emotional reaction you have to fiction.” Like it’s fine and normal and healthy to feel sad at sad RP stories, the way that we feel sad at a sad movie. That’s why I said bleed is a reaction that goes beyond this sort of emotional response.
Bleed, as you said, is when we start getting emotional to a degree that really harms our enjoyment of the hobby. It’s when we start getting sad or frustrated or upset because of the story not going the way we want, because our character isn’t getting the story we want them to get, etc.
When I say “maladaptive,” I mean that we’re having an emotional response to stress that’s become harmful in some fashion. It causes us stress, anxiety, etc. in a way that we get stressed, anxious, upset in response to real life stressors outside of the game. Our mood might get ruined for the day, or even beyond that. We’re upset or frustrated in the situation.
I think bleed — by which I just mean having an emotional response to RP or IC events that is bad enough to feel harmful or maladaptive in some fashion, stuff that goes beyond the standard sort of emotional reaction you’d have to fiction – is incredibly common. Like, the vast majority of RPers will experience it in some fashion at one point or another.
The bleed is the cause of the real problem, which is when players have a bad reaction to the bleed and make it other people’s problems in a harmful way, but it’s not the same thing as being the problem itself. I think it’d be more helpful to recognize bleed as being a common issue that people are likely to encounter at some point or another, and instead talk about how to react to bleed in a healthy and productive way. I think it can be unhelpful when the community tends to frame bleed as “this is a bad thing that tends to happen because you’re not doing a good enough job of managing yourself” because it wraps the whole thing up in shame that may make it harder for people to recognize and handle well.
@hellfrog said in Bad Stuff Happening IC:
Fuck them up, but don’t embarrass them. I’ll embarrass my character if I feel like it.
i am convinced that embarrassment is actually the number one thing MU players hate, way beyond any other bad stuff happening.
I answered “if I have control over it” which isn’t EXACTLY right, I don’t want to be needing to dictate the details. But it’s moreso a level of – understanding the risk I’m getting into, and also that I definitely trust some GMs more than others. It’s really about what’s been mentioned regarding “it makes sense to the story.” I want good story most of all.
@Aria said in AI Megathread:
You should be–if you know how to use them properly–leaving no spaces between the dash and the word.
i came over here to complain about how those are clearly en-dashes, and then i discovered in the quoted text that you did the usual double hyphen dealio we all do, and the forum software just renders it as en-dashes?!?!?!
nodebb why you do this. clearly if you’re going to render that out it should be — not –. absolute clown behavior, nodebb
@MisterBoring I could be wrong, but there’s no indication in the forum post that it was continuing after the initial ban.
@MisterBoring No, that’s not the behavior being described. It was using secret alts to give stuff to/generally benefit their main alt.
Title: Kamzu’s undeclared alt, Sophia, rostered
Posted by: Ada
Date: 2025-11-29 22:51I am confident, based on server logs and observed behaviour, that Sophia was also being played by Kamzu’s player. I had initially assumed that she was played by Kamzu’s player’s friend, and I am obviously okay about people playing games with friends, but the balance of probabilities from what information is available to me is that they are the same person.
Sophia’s in-character actions are retconned in their entirety. However, since she never told anybody about her sweeping, far-reaching, and utterly transformative plans, including any of the three active Kournis characters, I doubt anybody will notice this retcon.
For those curious about her behaviour, she was invited to each of Kamzu’s actions. She asked questions on those actions as if in Kamzu-voice, for example, exactly how much the numbers on Phavah’s domain could be improved. She was going to cede the entirety of Kournis’ resources to Phavah, supposedly as a “loan”. She was going to spend her actions making administration rolls in Phavah lands. When I checked in with her – as I have with a number of people to see how they are doing – she told me that there was nothing to do, and that the only player who engaged with her was Kamzu.
They never interacted in the game.
yeah this is literally what he got banned from city of glass for
@Ominous said in Banning Bad, Actually?:
For those who are on the side of ban early and ban often, might I suggest running private, whitelist server for just your friends? Or maybe have a rigorous review process requiring an interview between staff and an applicant before they can CG?
idk i feel like my counterpoint for this is “if you don’t want to get banned early and often from a public game, might i suggest simply being on your best behavior?”
Staff on games, and mods on forums, have power over the space they’re running. They have power to make the space as they want, and let who they want in and kick out who they don’t. They do control whether a person can interact with their specific space.
But this is different from having power over people.
@Autumn said in Intro to MU*ing Event:
@Jihgfed said in Intro to MU*ing Event:
How the heck do you pronounce “MU*s”, anyway? “Moos”? “Myoo-stars”?
“MOO” was/possibly still is also a server family, standing for “MUD, Object-Oriented.” So I wouldn’t go with that one, just to minimize the possibility of confusion.
Despite the potential ambiguity, “Moos” is still how everyone I know says it out loud, so it’s the correct pronunciation for me.
@Ominous said in Empire Discussion Thread:
What about this game is different from Arx? It looks veeery similar based on the limited info on the website. It is PvE focused (which I really don’t understand for L&L, as the whole theme hinges on politicking and intrigue which you can’t do without competition against each other (well, I guess you could if, instead of outsiders filling the role, other factions/noble houses that are only filled with NPCs are the “bad guys”)), has an empire consisting of loosely affiliated kingdoms that are only held together out of the enlightened self-interest of “united, we stand; divided, we fall,” and has said kingdoms that seem superficially dissimilar without any apparent major cultural differences to serve as tension points.
this isn’t even an accurate description of Arx tho???