I wish my dreams were like that. Mine always involve having to fight entropy with my third-form science teacher Mr. Wilson.

@Wizz said in MU Peeves Thread:

isn’t the, uh…point of TS that it’s still collaborative writing, tho?

I think in cases where you’re going to be such a nutter about it (like above) it’s likely less about the collaboration and more about the power trip. But still that would require another person, yes.

@Roz said in MU Peeves Thread:

this is a weird rule for a game to have

I suppose it might make sense on a game where new characters explicitly can’t have known each other previously… but I imagine it’s more likely a case of a staffer with more than a few bad experiences crying “enough is enough.”

@Third-Eye said in MU Peeves Thread:

Gdoc porn with a friend

The last thing I want is Google giving me an AI summary of my TS.

That’s just such a dumb lie, too.

Obviously lying to get TS (or anything, but TS is particularly violating) is bad, but like… just wait two weeks my dude, it’s not hard.

@helvetica Aye, my read of it was similar and so was my reaction. It was less “I don’t believe you” and more “… more details please, spill all of the tea.”

@Rathenhope said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Tez GDPR compliance. TS can only be between EU member states.

Outside of the EU it’s just sparkling cybersex.

@Wuff A. Men. The constant battle between “I don’t want to get in the shower, it’s cold” followed by “I don’t want to get out of the shower, it’s cold.”

@Tez said in AI Megathread:

Use it as a tool alongside human judgment.

Obviously this is the correct course, but basically every institutional use that I have personally seen has been lacking in the latter section.

Which is a problem in terms of work culture, not the tool, yes but when you’re relying on the tool to make decisions that directly impact a person’s likelihood of getting a degree, or getting/keeping a job? I don’t think we should be using, much less relying on, imperfect tools for in those instances.

@howyadoin said in Arx:

Arx also had a secret system that tied most into some aspect of the metaplot or history, giving every character something they could pursue out the gate that was more or less “theirs” and could hook in to wider story arcs.

To clarify, this was a system about Character Secrets, not a system that was secret.

@catzilla said in Age Verification & Games:

@Ominous On the forum PBP and Discord game side of the RP world, I see a lot of 21-25+ minimum age.

I suppose an easy way to see if someone is 25+ is to show them various kinds of painkiller and ask which they take regularly.

@Cobalt Hi, I’m Troy McClure, you might remember me from such MUs as…

@Yam said in Age Verification & Games:

I find it concerning that they default to… handling actual IDs for pretendy funtime

Of course they are. Because it’s not about it being pretendy funtime, it’s about them very likely believing that they have a legal, moral, and/or ethical requirement to ensure their participants are adults.

@Roz said in Age Verification & Games:

@KarmaBum said in Age Verification & Games:

He’s aware of MUSHing, has seen me do it, has even chatted with me and brainstormed a few times, but he’s not going to join a hobby full of middle-aged women pretending to be sexy vampires.

the contempt is dripping off your words

Sexy psychologically damaged vampires.

@Livia said in MU* Wishlists:

ignoring V5

Which is the correct thing to do.

@Faraday said in Age Verification & Games:

If you are going to allow minors on an online game, you have additional responsibilities - both ethically and legally.

Lordy I remember when COPPA became a thing and the complexities of dealing with that in a safe way. Now with many polities, including Australia, banning children from accessing social media… if one of our battier MPs finds out about MUing it could very well have legal rammifications for us (Australians) here (on MUs) too.

@Faraday Personally I’d rather not give my ID over to anybody and the laws that require it are hamfisted and poorly thought out. But they’re here, and I only foresee them getting stronger.

I’m weirdly okay with services and websites having some sort of secured way of accessing, from a ‘trusted’ source, that a person is 18+. In the same way we all sort of trust the security of our banking app. So if a MU wanted to connect with, say, Yoti ID and could get a token from them that “the person you’re asking about has demonstrated to us that they are over 18” that would be a different question, and I’d encourage such a thing.

I’ve no idea how to do that in a way that isn’t easily falsified by children, but I think it should be sufficient for a MU to cover themselves from legal rammifications. “Hey, we went the mile you asked of us.”

@Prototart said in Age Verification & Games:

@Tez said in Age Verification & Games:

I’m not even talking about Discord’s age verification. I’m talking about RP servers on Discord being like ‘verify your age by sending us your ID’. I’m talking about users feeling like they need to do it.

ETA: I need to clarify. This is on top of Discord’s systemic age verification. This is an additional layer of USERS asking OTHER USERS in SHARED SERVERS to send them their ID.

Girl that is nuts there is 100% some ID theft ring running a Sonic RP server with five thousand defense contractors in it

I’m not sure what’s worse. Sonic TS, or Sonic TS with a Raytheon employee.

@Tez said in Age Verification & Games:

This is an additional layer of USERS asking OTHER USERS in SHARED SERVERS to send them their ID.

We barely trust other users to make judgement calls for our pretendy fun time games, much less giving them access to documents that can very easily (for the determined) lead to identity theft, other forms of fraud, or simple doxing.

@Prototart said in MU* Wishlists:

@Pavel said in MU* Wishlists:

@Pacha And when did you develop this taste in luxuries?

just walked into Waffle House and asked for ortolan

While I’m fairly sure you meant the bird that’s drowned in Armagnac… but my first thought was that you had ordered this kind of Ortolan.