@Aria wait what there’s a fake nipple in there or like a patch for your own? i could have FOUR nipples, in theory?!?
Posts made by mietze
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RE: RL Peeves
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RE: MU Peeves Thread
@Pavel that’s my thought as well, to be clear. the best they can.
no matter how hard one tries to be “fair” though there are always going to be people saying it’s not good enough. maybe it wasn’t for them, but there’s only so much a staff person can do.
they can’t know someone’s interested in something unless they speak up at something they see (or like, respond to inquiry). if someone doesn’t understand something they’re not going to know that without being told. i’m not really sure how staff is supposed to make sure that nobody gets the spotlight “too much” for any given person’s taste because a lot of time it’s the people who show up/make inquiries. people don’t like to hear that (and i do get the grumpiness over it, i’ve felt that in the past pretty often even though intellectually i understood that i wasn’t turning in requests or communicating with staff, so what did i expect), but i would say in a soft majority of cases i think that’s true.
i also think that’s where the “if you don’t trust leave” stuff comes from too. when you get to the point of having a ton of resentment, it’s not salvageable on the game a lot of the time. it’s stressful for everyone to deal with when someone feels that way AND desperately wants to hook into the metaplot/larger game. Sandboxing with friends can be enjoyable if you can turn off the desire to be part of the bigger picture.
maybe it’s just me being in my stuff, but it seems like it’s probably pretty hard to be a staffer now. i know i’ve been shocked lately to see habitual no shows across games, and a passivity that i mean sure some people did years ago too, but it does feel more common now to me, and i’m only seeing things playerside.
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RE: MU Peeves Thread
i’m not really sure what staff is supposed to do, though.
“fair” is a pretty tricky thing to get right, and people feel what they feel (and sometimes what they feel isn’t something that is anyone else’s fault).
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RE: Real life happy
that feeling of relief when 2 people respond to your kid’s birthday party invite (was sweating that it’d just be family on saturday, though the college kids are all coming home for it) in the positive.
i think in general kid parties seem to have never really recovered post-covid, but also kaiju is so adhd and goes to a very small neighborhood school (same kids in same class since school reopened) so everyone had to deal with the adhd behavior (though he’d doing so awesome now) and my parent heart always wonders if that’s why no invites to him (my other 3 were all quirky in their ways, but at this age like every weekend there was something. But like the two moms that texted me back were like “hey they’re so excited, this is the first birthday party of the year” so also relief in maybe it’s not just us.
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RE: MU Peeves Thread
sometimes it just takes time. it’s really only been in the last year that i can deal with really going after stuff in requests (follow up on ic news posts, ect) or asking about stuff, even though i’ve been friends with the staffers for years some of them.
the thing is i’ve always seen this as my problem to solve (also why I don’t tend to assume too much about people doing a lot of stuff visibly, i always assume they don’t have my hangups for asking to be involved.
i am well liked on the games i play, by staff and others. they’re happy to engage and hear from me. this has been the case for longer than this year, but i think it just takes time for some people to really find a place where they can settle and let go of some of the anxiety/guardedness. i’ve staffed so i should know better about not worrying about bothering people, but i just think some of us are like that. i’m really enjoying the times i’m able to overcome it though.
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RE: RL Peeves
The realities of dealing with illness and a chronic condition are hitting pretty hard. Trying to keep my chin up, I’ve certainly navigated even more stress in my life but im pretty tired and airplane crud sucks and not even in a fun way. I am used to being able to power through just about anything. I feel pretty gross and annoyed to not be able to anymore.
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RE: MU Peeves Thread
@helvetica ohhhhhhh ok. I can’t believe I didn’t get that! Duh!
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RE: MU Peeves Thread
I don’t understand what is meant by game ad tone. The conversation isn’t all negative I guess and there is some theory discussion, and game ads as I understand them are more to not have people discussing all the ways they don’t like the game. Though now its dominating a general thread, is that the issue like it needs its own place in R&R?
I really genuinely don’t understand what is meant by this.
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RE: MU Peeves Thread
It just seems pretty standard to me of late that even L&L fantasy games now tend to have a very strong “nobody gets knocked up or knocks anyone up unless they purposefully do something to not prevent it” component. Its most often in the form of free access to all people birth control and if one person takes it then that’s enough to ensure you don’t (giving people freedom to know that they are not going to conceive) , rather than you have to take something to make it so and both have to take it in order to conceive (so you know that if you don’t do that its not going to happen).
I do understand how either of those ways is going to hit different from different folks. But I don’t see what we are talking about as more mind-blowing than allowing true free and uninhibited access to prevention at least in my experience as a woman.
Maybe it’s just because of my personal background, but to me giving a woman equal agency over opening up the possibility each time with the default being its not going to happen unless both people wholeheartedly agree seems just as liberating in a way that I wasn’t allowed to think of as a kid.
But most of the time I don’t really have to think about it much on games because I prefer not to make that a focus in my RP anyway (and why I don’t choose to be part of time skip or high speed games where that becomes an important focus of the game, because that “you must be fruitful and multiple and carry the blood forward” as a hyper or primary focus is one of those things that make me uncomfortable probably as much as infertility does other folks.
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RE: MU Peeves Thread
@Meg i really don’t think that sort of RP is common on any mush, sadly. I have seen people pose laughing so hard in a scene that their pc had to run towards the bathroom. To be clear presumably because of their bladder not uterus but as they didn’t go into detail I guess I’ll never know.
Alas never have I ever been sitting in the bar or in a private area and had a female pc remark “damn it I’m on the rag again but at least I am not pregnant!” Which is too bad really. I’d be down to try it but I don’t need people to think im any weirder than they already know I am.
I can see a lot of worry for this lore but I admit the fact it might have selfishly messed up some people’s rp about their menstrual cycles did not even occur to me. Though what was that place that had coded menstrual attractiveness? Haven? Now those people would need to riot if there was suddenly fuckfruit.
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RE: MU Peeves Thread
@Meg I don’t understand why talking ic about menstruation would have anything to do with fertility.
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RE: MU Peeves Thread
There are so many other places where one can have as many children ic with no limits other than not being able to force another player into participating without their consent. Or even where you can force your pc into a family or whatever without consulting the other people in it (just need approval from staff) via themes of background adultery by npcs shared by family members ect.
I don’t think every game need take that approach, and honestly I don’t think any type reflects on the humanity or the character of the runners.
Its okay to not like something, there’s no personal character judgement in that either or shouldn’t be imo. I think people from similar backgrounds can have very different reactions and interest levels in RP that might touch on things that echo that experiment.
If you find something grating or stupid or distressing, then it’s important to listen to that and walk away from it. You don’t/shouldn’t pick a painful scab with a game. I wouldn’t assume anything about people with a different reaction or who want to explore those themes or aren’t bothered by the setting though.
Even fuck fruits aren’t unique. That’s what changeling had to do at some point didn’t they, when the first rule about all changeling could not have children was instituted there was a goblin fruit or whatever. But that was decades ago so I may be misremembering, I do remember a large cry about it from the people who loved rping out being pregnant and the like. Which again, no real shade here, family play is fun for those who like it.
I think the other thing is emphasis though. This game does not penalize adoption over “real” children, which also can be a sensitive topic! And it makes sense given this topic too. The game doesn’t so far seem to be terribly centered around All My Trueborn Children that I have seen. So it might be a meh to some folks that it would be a bigger problem if that was what a great deal of emphasis was placed on.
Given the significant restrictions for a married in PC too, I am not even sure i would consider this a game in which building families and setting up dynasties in the scope of the game is even something heavily emphasized as something everyone should do in the scope of the game but I’m going to guess a lot of people also really haven’t read up on that either, and there may be some surprises when the door opens to ic marriages between pcs.
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RE: City of Glass - Discussion
@Testament Make sure your concept is something you are excited about doing, and then just go for it. You can always ask staff for some guidance to say “yikes/i wouldn’t recommend that” even if things are chargen_ok, or ask on questions and see if there’s a player willing to help you through it. But that is just the thing. Numbers can be worked on later. I know on one of mine her concept has spun around a few times so there are some sheet things I would ideallly like to tweak now that I’m more settled into the trajectory but honestly it doesn’t impact my play because it’s a strong concept that I have a lot of fun playing regardless of sheet efficiency, and I think that enthusiasm encourages the same.
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RE: City of Glass - Discussion
@Testament if you have a concept that you’re excited about, then folks can usually help with the numbers and merits–though if it’s been a long time since you’ve played and you are wanting to have maximum dice and minimum failure due to experiences around inclusion and people writing you off that might be harder to overcome mentally. My experience is that people don’t really care too much about your rolls and are very kind about it. You don’t need to come out of the chute badass–most people won’t. But I know that can be a really hard mental block to overcome for a LOT of WoD players esp. if they’re used to high XP games.
I will say that the game culture is very different from the standard WoD before, so that’s not super a big deal (and it’s a low XP game anyway). I’m not the best numbers person but I’m always willing to try to help as long as it’s a system I’m somewhat familiar with. (which alas, is not demon or mage, but tbh I’ve been won over to the side of mages being really nifty)
Numbers won’t make the character come alive though, nor will they win you inclusion, and this it’s a very cross-sphere game. So I would say keep that definitely in mind with choosing concepts over being different for differences sake, or putting roadblocks in the way of connecting with folks, unless you can do that ICly in a way that’s still OOC engaging to others. That’s often kind of different to the classic WoD game, even some of the newer games (so not talking about the 90s here).
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RE: MU Peeves Thread
yes, it was very much a case of ignoring that in favor of picking out the flavors for the magical babies and yes not reading the theme/source material.
No, I don’t really understand the appeal, but there are things I like that other people are like lol what. But at least usually they’re things in the lore/source that fascinated me while being boring/horrifying to others!
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RE: MU Peeves Thread
There was a specific subgroup of folks on owod changeling places that loved to have magical twins, but after a few games that wasn’t enough so magical triplets started to happen. I never saw it pushed past that into higher higher order multiples clearly no one was hardcore enough.
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RE: MU Peeves Thread
@Roz I wouldn’t be surprised if there will be a way to investigate why/how or if there can be change is part of the things that can be done just because of other ways the metaplot seems to be leading to finding out why the rifts are happening/if there is another reason/why did they only start a few generations ago/what were things really like before, ect
But I’m not staff and don’t know for sure.
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RE: MU Peeves Thread
I’m not certain there’s better ways so much as squicking different people. Except for perhaps a very blunt ooc rule of “No. This will not be entertained as a playable concept/something in play.” Which i am also a great fan of. Sometimes I think there’s too much bending over backwards to make things make sense or to try to convince players that no really this has a ic reason so you should be okay with it.
Except for the problem folks are never going to be okay with it and you will always have some non problematic folks that will disagree with any restrictive decision.
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RE: MU Peeves Thread
I dunno. When one of the major premises of the game is that every birth opens up a new interdimensional rift through which terrifying things can flow, which is featured prominently in the lore writeup and splash pages and has been from the start, I don’t see that it’s outlandish that society would build up control and ritual around it.
Though I’m a fan of saying bluntly no you can’t spring a bastard or unknown child on people past or present without consent or need to make it abundantly clear that that can be done and there are many ways to do that. I do think that child stuff is always tricky and always will be, and have yet to see a place where that was handled in a way where there wasn’t some ick or drama over it, whether that’s weird people entering a family as pcs, staff dictating results of conception, ect. It’s always going to have to be some kind of policy thing because players largely don’t read/don’t give a shit about social/pc consequences or disapproval (or they love it too much in a spank me ive been a naughty person way).
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RE: Real life happy
After about 3 days of feeling very ill off and on due to adjusting to all these new meds I actually had the best home readings of various things than I have in months and feel more like myself than I have since I got my two covid infections back to back. I’m certain that I’ll continue to dip in and out energy wise but it’s nice to see the impact on the numbers.
Even declining all the $500+/mo drugs and going for the old school ones. Ngl when things didn’t seem like they were budging there were some tears this week thinking I was going to have to try and find a way but it looks like I have a reprieve, which is a huge weight lifted.