As someone who once Staffed on AOA (long, long ago), I am not surprised that harassers like this… person who I am honestly too lazy to scroll up and find his name again… are not removed from their position of power.

Considering that a current member of Staff has, in the past, set himself dark and sat in the same room I was TSing in, and I only figured it out because I have this obsessive habit of typing WHO and +WHERE on my Staff bit (no reason, just like, a habit) and saw him in the room. And I couldn’t really tell Cujo… because… it was Cujo.

So.

Yeah.

There’s that.

@64bitjedi This is pretty much going how it always goes. Cujo comes under attack, the game comes under attack, and instead of Cujo addressing it, he sends you. You put on airs that you’re the “safe person,” that you are there to “look out for us,” and then you tell Cujo and Cujo exacts his revenge quietly through bans, nukes, and removal of contributions.

It always goes this way, and you need to stop being his enforcer if you actually care about remediation and have him address his accusers.

He can make an account here.

He can address this group.

OK, there’s lots of games before my recollection. I was on Star Wars: Age of Alliances and various other random places. So, onward (and yes, I used Road’s list to help remind me because we’re attached at the hip).

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Darth Anathe, sith enforcer
Tilly Fel, twi’lek mechanic
Molliela, mercenary
Raze, Mandalorian
Twirrl, Republic Staffer

Cuendillar
Aloysia, failed accepted
Ihina, accepted
Laurellia, noblewoman
Someone else who I can’t remember, black ajah

Vampire Masquerade
Eleanor, Ventrue-adopted Malkavian

Chicago MUSH
Nell, jazz singer

Steel and Stone
Saffron Mallister, lady
Sela Snow, bastard
Anathema Nayland, witch and lady

The Fifth World
Ellinor Sauveur, knight and drake-hunter
Lethe Vallas, musician
Devon Khournas, lady and psychomancer
Lionel Keats, omniflirt and knight

Star Wars: Generations of Darkness
Leandra, ex-mechanic and queen of Onderon
Mae Vertias, fallen Jedi
Raze, Mandalorian

Star Wars: Omens
Tilly, twi’lek Mandalorian mechanic
Anathema, sith

Realms Adventurous
Arian de Laverstock, knight

The 100 MUSH
Hanne, botanist intern
Gideon, scout
Galle, healer
Andromeda, Staffer

Arx
Iona Bisland, loyal duchess (briefly)

BSU
Isolde, mechanic
Rothschild, hero marine
Bean, enlisted-old marine

Fires of Hope
Valara Vox, rebel

The Eighth Sea
Aoife, thief
Serra, vodun pirate

CoMux
Rami Ghai, OC Shield Agent
Barbara Gordon, Batgirl
Kate Bishop, the BEST Hawkeye
Foggy Nelson, the BEST Lawyer

Common Descent
Barbara Gordon, Batgirl
Foggy Nelson, still the BEST Lawyer
Kate Bishop, still the BEST Hawkeye
Scarecrow, terrorizer of Gotham
Mystique, blue (sometimes)

Spirit Lake
Cara Callaghan, botanist/ecologist
Hugh Larsen, small jobs guy

Gray Harbor
Magnolia Jones, PI
Astrid Miller-Eriksen, ecologist student and shieldmaiden

Dove Cove
Patricia “Patch” Song, trauma nurse

Keys
Cara Calder, ethnobotanist

The Last Road
Nobody, literally what his name was
Anathema, broodmother

Stargate
Patch Song, astronaut and AF pilot

The Savage Skies
Myrtle Pratt, pilot
Tilly Chauveau, mechanic
Nora Byrne, pilot
Frances Quinn, ground ops
Jane Clarke, intelligence
London, Staff

The Network
Beth Larsen, The Blue-Collar Warlock

Crystal Springs
Cleo Myles Dormer, quiet smartie pants
Astrid MIller-Eriksen, rich hipster
Elle Jones, police’s kid

At Present:
The Network
Ellie Myer, The McCoy
Blu, storyteller

takes big, gasping breaths as she finally catches up on this thread

Consensual sex is good. Slut-shamming is bad. TS is glorious.

@Kestrel is a god, or something. Demigod? Dark sidhe?

But it’s okay if you don’t commit ban-able offenses on MSB, because some of you are still engaging enough with their HEAL THE COMMUNITY post that the mirror keeps flashing back in their direction.

Also—I’ll ban your ass if I know you’re a piece of shit on another game, don’t care if you’ve not done your normal shit on my game yet. I shall return you to the cesspool from whence you came, receipt or not. I don’t got time for you. To quote my convo with @Roadspike in the car today—

@CuriousGamer I admit I was not going to say anything and then got anxious when the question was posed when it happened (Road encouraged me to say something because it still creates a history of action, and I think spying on someone’s intimacy and sexual interactions is highly inappropriate, particularly now that I can look at it from the distance of time).

His disregard for Hadrix still demonstrates a lack of awareness.

@Pavel said in Bannings:

This is how I best understand the clique membership, but I could be wrong:

Went back and forth with @Roadspike on this whole thing, whether or not I should say something. It was a while ago, but then I realized I was talking myself into excusing behavior that might persistent into the present.

And fuck that bullshit.

@Anony-Mouse said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

On AoA, Cujo & Creeps also listen in on pages. They also have the habit of quietly removing players’ ability to speak on the Public and Newbie channels. I know of several people who had this happen after they spoke up on something Cujo didn’t want to hear about (a subject Cujo himself brought up in one case, and in another case giving chargen advice on DSS), or said something that made him look stupid or uncool (which was only pulling off his mask). If you’re still on that game, don’t say anything in pages you don’t want them to hear. They will.

I am very, very, very, very much aware as a former Staffer that use of the suspect system was not to protect other players. AOA paired with Generations of Darkness where Kitty also abused the use of the suspect system has made me VERY wary of playing anywhere that has Penn or Rhost.

I have very vivid memories of being a victim of the suspect system when I was struggling with an OOC romantic relationship with another player/staffer where I was talking to someone else about it and those pages were passed along to the person I was with at the time.

When Staff starts using a system meant to protect players from abusers to instead spy on players they don’t like or to get dirt on people, that’s a big red flag for me.

It’s amazing how you don’t even think about a game and suddenly it gets brought up, and you’re like:

Wow, the shit I remember thinking was “okay, but sketchy” in my yesteryears and now going “Holy shit that was abusive in reflection,” and it is obviously still going on.

No one has publicly called them out for it before, and I just walked away from AOA after an attempt to come back 8-ish years ago and never looked back.

@Wizz said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

But I was so extremely burnt out by the experience I just bounced entirely for a while…

This.

I was puzzling with Zephyr why I didn’t say something when I left the last time, but I think I just couldn’t go through rehashing everything.

SEASON: Redemption
LAUNCH DATE: February 24th
THEME: Alternate Reality Western (not set in the real world)

Redemption began as a small mining camp in the new province of the Northern Reach. With the recent completion of the railroad and rail station, the town has seen a boom as the mines have brought in more revenue, the ranches have seen expansion and prosperity, and explorers have continued to push further north into the forests, foothills, and mountains to the north. But with great prosperity and growth comes an influx of new people which brings not only possibility, but problems. Clashes between established settlers and newcomers, big companies and those they’ve pushed aside or who want the resources that they can provide, outlaw gangs and the law, and people and the very elements and environment are common.

Whether one is coming to Redemption to find peace, running from something, seeking adventure, wanting to make their fortune, or get revenge; no one can avoid getting swept up in the conflict in one way or another. Everyone from the butcher, to the baker, to the candlestick maker is connected with one or another group vying for influence within the town. Then of course, there are the rumors, the myths, the legends. How many of them are true and how much is just folklore? Is there more to worry about in the mountains than just one another? Can anyone find their redemption in this frontier town? Or will this be the literal end of the line?

Learn More Here: https://thenetwork.mugames.org/wiki/redemption

Hailee Steinfeld >.>

Also whatever classifies as a “science nerd” in the theme, or total occult junkie.

Alright, nerds.

I open this post solely for the purpose of people recommending books to OTHER people. It is not at all self-serving.

Okay.

Maybe a little.

I like books.

I’ll start us off—

Ninth House, Leigh Bardugo - take Yale University, shove a bunch of secret magical societies into it, and then add an unlikely protagonist tasked with keeping all the University weirdos in check. Murder, ghosts, dark magic, and unlikely twists.

Devolution, Max Brooks - journalistic account and interviews of the Rainier Sasquatch Massacre. Engaging, terrifying. Do not recommend reading during a power outage by flashlight in the middle of the dark woods in a windstorm.

@Noraaa Everyone has said what I would have. I’m glad @Zephyr had your back.

@SqeakyClean said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

TS-ridden game such as AoA, with allowing underage Characters to exist

@Pavel Oooh. I got caught-up thinking about cross-games a bit where a call on one game carries over into assumptions made in other games.

I think the whole—

@Pavel said in Proving Assertions:

This is about the forum in particular

—triggered my brain into think about how you make assertions about someone’s behavior (because I misread it as this is NOT about the forum in particularly, bad close-reading this morning).

In terms of the forum, what I’ve noticed is that usually, without fail, when someone comes onto the forum and makes a claim, it creates an open space for others to go, “OK, yeah. I experienced this, too.” We rarely have run into an issue where someone brings something up and the majority go “nah, didn’t have that experience.”

Collective experiences create a pattern of behavior, which I think can actually provide more “proof” than receipts. Ultimately, the they said/they said falls apart when one side of the scale outweighs the other.

This echoes @Pyrephox’s response.

In terms of the AOA thread, I took a few days saying something because I had a lot of anxiety around “time since” and “had no proof.”

Interrogation, vibe checks, and conversations are important.

But I’ll be super honest—if I get multiple reports from multiple sources bringing me sexual harassment claims, gaslighting claims, or stalker claims, and we talk it through and everything clicks…

I’m not really going to give the offender the same time of day. I’ll give the person 10 minutes to get their affairs in order and ban them. The one convo I do not want to have is the “I was just joking!” or “I didn’t mean it like that!” or “You don’t know my side of the story!” We did that on Savage Skies with Khalid—which I guess cost us a lot because we didn’t let his cohort corner us with counter-interrogation that included us revealing our “sources.”

Maybe that could set me up for regretting a call later, but I haven’t so far.

Semi-aside—I have liked Ares report feature. Something doesn’t feel right, you just report the whole thing and it creates a request and Staff gets all the details.

@Wizz said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

But I was so extremely burnt out by the experience I just bounced entirely for a while…

This.

I was puzzling with Zephyr why I didn’t say something when I left the last time, but I think I just couldn’t go through rehashing everything.

@Das-Auto said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

Cujo plays Din Djarin as well.

@Zephyr said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

everyone here was just a bunch of angry, lying people who were banned from games

I am angry.

I only lie about Santa Claus, or who ate the last cookie (sorry @Roadspike, IT WAS ME).

But, um… I’d really like to see logs/screenshots if you would be OK DM’ing them to me. Mostly because… I’ve been there, and I guess I want to see if things are the same as I suspect they’ve always been. If you don’t mind.