Numetal/Retromux
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@Gashlycrumb Looking back, maybe it shouldn’t have been approved. And not because of the concept, but because people have been playing this game for thirty years and get mad when anything outside the norm is introduced. It’s probably impossible to get around this, sadly.
@Wyrmsign said in Numetal/Retromux:
I would have pulled the character,
Right, just pull the character someone made, cool way to resolve things. If you are who I think you are, you essentially did this anyway by changing my approved sheet without telling me, and paging me that you didn’t care who approved me, I was -never- going to get level 1 gifts despite my five dot merits I bought and full list of flaws related to it. Apparently, level 1 gifts are gamebreaking.
This is why I pitched the plot to retire my character, by the way. Because getting your sheet changed and triple nerfed for no reason was another example of getting egregiously dicked over for choosing to do something different.
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@MisterBoring said in Numetal/Retromux:
Really, looking at your character idea, it’s on both you and the staffer that approved you to go “We can do this by the rules, but should we really be doing this?” And it seems like neither of you did. Hopefully you have changed since then.
This is definitely fair. Yeah, I’m not even planning to play MU*s at all in the near future, because it was that bad of an experience.
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@Cygnus said in Numetal/Retromux:
Right, just pull the character someone made, cool way to resolve things. If you are who I think you are, you essentially did this anyway by changing my approved sheet without telling me, and paging me that you didn’t care who approved me, I was -never- going to get level 1 gifts despite my five dot merits I bought and full list of flaws related to it. Apparently, level 1 gifts are gamebreaking.
Bzzzt, wrong yet again. Can’t really grok that someone with no control over your character thought you handled…well everything poorly I guess.
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@Wyrmsign TBH, I don’t really care who you are. But you are staff since you apparently ‘would have pulled’ my character. Anyway, it doesn’t really matter – hopefully anyone who sees this thread will avoid RetroMUX like the plague and it will wither into non-existence as it should. Any game which platforms this kind of harassment needs to die.
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@Cygnus said in Numetal/Retromux:
@Wyrmsign TBH, I don’t really care who you are. But you are staff since you apparently ‘would have pulled’ my character. Anyway, it doesn’t really matter – hopefully anyone who sees this thread will avoid RetroMUX like the plague and it will wither into non-existence as it should.
Then I’d stop trying to guess, because I am /not staff/. And you are the one that stirred this whole shitshow up how many months after you were no longer on game? Blame yourself.
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@Wyrmsign Then why’d you say you’d pull the character? Maybe you have such a self-aggrandized view of yourself that you think your opinion changes who does and doesn’t get approved?
Also, all I did was talk a little shit. Then Sephiroth posted an unhinged rant of lies. That’s when I brought this up, but as we’ve already figured out, reading comprehension and situational awareness aren’t your strong suit.
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@Cygnus said in Numetal/Retromux:
Maybe you have such a self-aggrandized view of yourself that you think your opinion changes who does and doesn’t get approved?
I think that @Wyrmsign is just saying that if they were staff on a game where you proposed the character, they’d just strike the entire idea down at the earliest sign of drama.
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@MisterBoring Honestly, I wish someone did. It was such an awful experience all around.
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@Cygnus said in Numetal/Retromux:
@Wyrmsign Then why’d you say you’d pull the character? Maybe you have such a self-aggrandized view of yourself that you think your opinion changes who does and doesn’t get approved?
Because I had to interact with it. And the staff you’re shitting on gave you far more of a chance with it than I would have. That’s the beautiful thing about a forum. It’s made for opinions.
@Cygnus said in Numetal/Retromux:
Also, all I did was talk a little shit. Then Sephiroth posted an unhinged rant of lies. That’s when I brought this up, but as we’ve already figured out, reading comprehension and situational awareness aren’t your strong suit.
Riiiiight. Boy you got me there. Wasn’t like I saw all this myself and am not going off the spew you had.
@MisterBoring said in Numetal/Retromux:
I think that @Wyrmsign is just saying that if they were staff on a game where you proposed the character, they’d just strike the entire idea down at the earliest sign of drama.
Yes, this. Thank you. See, reading isn’t hard, give it a go.
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@Wyrmsign said in Numetal/Retromux:
Wasn’t like I saw all this myself
Oh you saw all the DMs and plot pitches I sent in, all the receipts, the whole true story I posted? Damn if you’re NOT staff and are privy to that information, maybe there’s other, deeper issues at RetroMUX.
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@Cygnus Christ on a Cracker. Did I say anything about any of that in my posts? No. Read. Go back, re-read. Maybe give it a third just for comprehension. You’re so desperate to have your villain that you’re flailing and it’s just sad now.
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@Wyrmsign TF are you on about? You just insinuated that you saw all this as it was happening. You did not have the full context, full stop – unless you did, in which case staff was sharing it as it happened in real time to players inside your clique while ignoring the bad behavior of players like Eddie et all. Which yeah, that’s a super deep and problematic thing if it did happen.
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@Cygnus I saw your shit behavior. I am commenting on your shit behavior. You said Seph was lying about everything. I am saying he is not. I gave examples of personally witnessed shit behavior. You’re trying so hard to make this into some sort of grand conspiracy now and it’s not. Your pc sucked the life out of scenes he was in, behaved ridiculously and you were an ass on your way out. Do I /really/ have to recap the points I made? Can you not scroll up?
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@Wyrmsign Sephiroth said with his full chest that Eddie has never been reported as a sex pest. I showed, with a receipt, that this isn’t true. Other people in this thread have also mentioned their issue with Eddie.
I also went point by point and showed receipts that proved otherwise for each of Sephiroth’s lies. So what you are saying here doesn’t mean squat to me because unless you have receipts of things that don’t exist, you’re trying to protect a problematic game, and protect problematic players. That shit is gross and is why RetroMUX is a bad place to play. And judging from the stories about RL, game jumping harassment by OTHER posters – and including the harassment on the discord I experienced – I am not even close to alone in this.
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Every once in awhile I miss being staff/ST on a WoD place but dealing with people like this reminds me why I actually do not.
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@Cygnus Cool story. I’m saying the stuff he said about /you/ is true. There are many witnesses, there are logs after logs of scenes you made all about Vincent, holding people virtually hostage because they were there for plot but you had other plans. People came back to the sphere when they found out you were gone. But you’ve made it clear you’ll do anything you can to drag attention off of that, up to and including pretending it didn’t happen. I’m not a therapist, not going to be bothered dealing with that level of delusion and deflection.
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@Wyrmsign You’re deflecting all of the OOC bullshit that happened because you didn’t like what my character did ICly. Sorry you didn’t like him, but I literally do not care about what you think about Vincent the PC.
I guarantee you, for every player that ‘came back when I left’ (I wasn’t even playing outside casual scenes for the last three months because I almost kicked the bucket), there are 10 who left because of awful staff and the platforming of OOC harassment.
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@Wyrmsign Sephiroth lied about how I got the character, lied about how I chose to leave the game, lied about Eddie’s mass reports, lied about how I introduced myself in multiple spheres, (and so did you, by saying I was a self-professed spy), lied about his OWN IC/OOC conflicts, lied about trans people getting outed, lied about extra XP, and so much more. These were all lies about OOC things.
I’m fully aware Vincent was a jackass. But I didn’t deserve the harassment, or the lies.
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@Wyrmsign But yeah, go off about my CHARACTER being an asshole IC, which you are using as a justification of the continuous harassment and lies about me the PLAYER. Ignore the super secret discord where staffers go to talk shit to their favorites, the favoritism, and the unyielding platforming of an abusive player that all happened OOC. That’s all fine because my character didn’t want to play nice, I suppose.
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@Cygnus No but I will go off about you continuing to try and deflect away from the point: You behaved badly when you didn’t get what you wanted. And now there are cookies waiting for me, and I am out of fucks to give for one day.