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    • RE: How dangerous is VASpider?

      @Xenon said in How dangerous is VASpider?:

      These warnings are helpful for anyone still wading through the swamp that is this hobby, but there are always going to be people who are just trusting enough, or perhaps vulnerable enough, to fall victim to expert manipulators and abusers.

      There’s also the fact that there’s a history of assholes associated with precursors of this site (some of which were even run by VASpider himself!) targeting people they don’t like for smear campaigns, for reasons as simple as (insert bigoted excuse here), so lots of people simply don’t trust this sort of thing because of past experience.

      TLDR: people remember what WORA was like and view any heir to it or place where more than a few of the old faces from there congregate with suspicion because WORA was a rancid cesspit and if they aren’t here to see that this is nothing like that, why would they trust us?

      The rest of this is behind a spoiler tag because I’m rambling and feel it’s important enough to save but my main point has already been made.

      I remember the bad old days where being a racial minority or LGBTQ could get you targeted by an angry mob on a MUSH and get you run off, which would then carry over to WORA/SWORA/whatever other stupid acronym they felt like at the moment, and it might get you an Encyclopedia Dramatica style wiki page that could accuse real world minors of harming children for playing characters that matched their real age on a supposedly teen friendly game, all because their 16/17 year old male characters held hands in a public scene. (Meanwhile the two 45+ year old straight men playing 14 year old lesbians [one of them Jubilee with triple D cup breasts who’s obsessed with Transformers, the other a vampire Jean Grey who’s also Dark Phoenix somehow, also with triple D cup breasts] making out on the pool table were fine, of course. MUs were for the male gaze, not the male gays!)

      Were I someone who was a minority and being “targeted by a hate thread” like this (I hope the sarcasm is dripping here, but if it’s not, it should be so pretend I said something more clever), I’d be doing my best to spin it that it was because you all were transphobic assholes who only hated me because of trans misandry, and use any example of someone misgendering even by accident as proof of it, and I’d have instant doubt for anyone who I want to manipulate into taking my side.

      And there’s people who’d believe it, because we know how fucking cruel the world can be to LGTBQ people. We need look no further than all the anti LGBTQ laws popping up like the world’s worst game of whackamole.

      Of course, we know this isn’t true, VASpider really did all this shit and more, but if the only place I’d seen it was somewhere like here (or I didn’t even know this site existed, for example) and I gave VASpider a chance and he abused me, it’s still his fault for abusing me. I could go back to him every day for fresh abuse, but he’d still be the one choosing to hurt me.

      (I also remember VASpider allowing this behavior in places where he wielded power, and even engaging in on it occasionally, or at least having a good laugh at the target’s expense.)

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    • RE: How dangerous is VASpider?

      @STD Star Trek Anomaly? Early to mid 2000s?

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    • RE: Silent Heaven: Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girlboss

      I would just like to say I am deeply hurt and offended at being called straight. If anyone needs me I’ll be binging queer cinema and cruising Grindr.

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    • RE: Silent Heaven: Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girlboss

      @GF I mean, fair. Definitely could be a troll, but I’ve absolutely seen some of the more idealistic among the LGBTQIA+ community absolutely have their minds blown when other LGBTQIA+ people were just… not friendly to them.

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    • RE: Silent Heaven: Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girlboss

      Pffft… ffffft… HAHAHAHA

      Oh my god she was being serious about the LGBTQIA community being super supportive, like…

      Have you actually ever actually been around another LGBTQIA person in your ENTIRE life? Sure, we support each other when there’s a bigot going for our throats, but when there’s no enemies present, honey, the claws come out. I’ve seen gay men get the crap beat out of them because they made the mistake of glancing at someone else’s boyfriend a little suggestively. I’ve seen drag queens become WWE referees at IHOP at 3am trying to stop fights, only for someone to spout a racist slur and get flattened, immediately, by said drag queen.

      I’ve also seen a drag queen take off her wig and use it as a flail against someone who was just being bitchy to her, so…

      This ain’t RuPaul’s best friend race, and just because me and you both fit under the Rainbow Umbrella doesn’t mean we’re gonna be besties. I support you in that you should be able to love or fuck whoever you wanna love or fuck (or NOT love or fuck, if you’re aro/ace, you belong) but you being LGBTQIA doesn’t mean you don’t get held to account for your bullshit by other LGBTQIA people.

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    • RE: Predators and Roleplaying Communities

      Before giving any data to BetterHelp, it’s important to know that they were recently fined something like 8 million dollars for selling patient data to companies like Facebook and SnapChat. They promised not to do it again… but they kinda promised not to do it when you sign up, so I’d take that with a whole shaker of salt.

      https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/2/23622227/betterhelp-customer-data-advertising-privacy-facebook-snapchat

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    • RE: Predators and Roleplaying Communities

      I know no one is meaning to undermine the experiences of those of us who didn’t grow up as girls, but I just need to address this.

      Current numbers place roughly 1 in 6, or about 16.6% of men as having experienced Child Sexual Assault as a child. I’ll be referring to it as CSA from here on out.

      That number goes higher with bisexual and gay men at roughly 1 in 4 or 25% (though some studies suggest as much as 59%) experiencing CSA.

      Two in three trans girls, 66% experience CSA. As a trans woman, myself, I am absolutely one of those numbers. I didn’t “grow up a girl”, but I definitely didn’t grow up a boy. Society did everything it could to make sure I knew I was not and could never be a ‘real girl’, but my experiences still more closely resemble those of my elementary and middle school girl friends than they did any of my cishet male friends.

      Plenty of people who didn’t grow up girls know what it’s really like, even if we’d desperately like to forget.

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    • RE: Predators and Roleplaying Communities

      Unfortunately, there’s a lot of us. Thank you all for sharing your stories. They’re hard to read, but important.

      With that in mind, here’s mine.

      For me, I was already abused IRL long before my online drama started. I won’t go into details, but it was bad enough that I still have difficulty with being touched unexpectedly.

      When I was 15, I met a game runner. He convinced me he was super cool, a genuinely good guy, and that he would never hurt me. I was incredibly lonely and just wanted friends.

      He was 29, but he was so awesome and liked me because of “how mature” I was for my age, totally, and not because I was an ignorant, fresh faced little 15 year old who was already primed for abusers with a bunch of online friends around the same age.

      By 16, he was my “boyfriend” and regularly talked about me coming to live with him. He was emotionally and verbally abusive and stole half the summer before my 11th grade year with ranting and screaming at me on the phone if I dared roleplay with anyone else, while he regularly roleplayed with a half dozen other people and had an entire harem.

      But, of course, because he was my boyfriend… I wanted my friends to know him. I’m pretty sure that was an idea he fed me, looking back.

      He dumped me a few weeks after meeting my 15 year old best friend whom he abused for years… Years later I found out he then “cheated on” them with a 13 or 14 year old he was trying to get to do a webcam show for him. Luckily, this kid was smart enough not to do that.

      We maintained a ‘friendship’ this whole time, which I realize now was really him using my youth and proximity to other teens as a way to lure in new potential targets. (Edit: It was also him maintaining a degree of control over me because with him being my ‘friend’ I didn’t want to do anything to hurt him or cause him suffering. He was handling me.)

      Years later I reconnected with some old friends online who convinced me to give the game he was running a go, since it was a theme I really liked and he was ‘rarely around’. He was still around often enough to be up to his old shit, though he was no longer targeting high school students and had matured enough to be going after college freshmen.

      Eventually his abusive bullying behavior got him removed from the game and the friend group he was in, and I finally felt comfortable actually interacting and socializing with them.

      But I forgot how fucking charming this asshole can be and a few years after we all cut contact, he wiggled his way back in. I started being more vocal about what he’d done and the negative impacts it’d had on me and others, and so he set about getting me ostracized from the group by forcing more interaction between us to paint me as a crazy bitch for not tolerating his presence.

      One person in the friend group literally told me ‘it was almost 20 years ago, why don’t you just let it go already?’

      And maybe if it’d just been me he’d been abusive to, if he’d been the only person I’d been hurt by like that, if he hadn’t tried to convince me to make a goddamn sex tape when I was 17 with the 15 year old I was too traumatized to do more than hold hands with? Maybe I could have let it go.

      But he was just one of a long line of abusers that started way too young and didn’t end until I was in my fucking 30s. I blew up the friend group, let everyone even tangentially involved that they were upset because I refused to spend time with a pedophile who groomed me and countless other kids online, and cut contact.

      It sucks, but I don’t wanna be around people who can overlook that sort of behavior, especially when he was literally soliciting minors for illegal materials.

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    • RE: Liberation MUSH

      He is a loving family man! He loves his family with Hera, his family with Themis, with Metis (edit: okay technically he ate her), his family with Demeter…

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    • RE: Liberation MUSH

      @Jenn said in Liberation MUSH:

      not getting that “upgraded” transaction from their investment as a friend suddenly means the friendship is meaningless and they’ve been slighted.

      This lootbox SUCKS.

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    • RE: Liberation MUSH

      @De-Villefort said in Liberation MUSH:

      @Aria
      It might ease the nerds into being normal around women by giving them regular exposure to girl-cooties.

      Or it would give said nerds a constant target to creep on and abuse and behave inappropriately with due to an inherent power imbalance of the paying customer and someone just trying to earn enough money to pay their bills.

      What needs to happen is for their fellow nerdy guys to chime in and say “this behavior isn’t okay, stop acting like a goddamn incel just because Mia turned you down for a date in 7th grade.”

      It’s not on women, or any other marginalized group, to help heal people actively bigoted toward them.

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    • RE: Liberation MUSH

      I suspect part of the change in demographics is that nerdy things aren’t being gatekept quite as hard for women and femmes, and are more easily accessed online.

      No more do you have to walk into a comic shop or a TT gaming store to buy stuff, only for all conversation, and laughter, die as a group of nerdy guys glare at you and whisper angrily because you dared to enter their domain, like you just walked into their damn living room instead of a place of business, all for the crime of being a woman or feminine presenting person.

      posted in Rough and Rowdy
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    • RE: Liberation MUSH

      @GF That was what they retconned it from in 2011, then back to in 2016. It was a good origin. Perez did good with that. Less good with making the tribe of all brown Amazons rapists and murderers, but nobody’s perfect.

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    • RE: Liberation MUSH

      @De-Villefort said in Liberation MUSH:

      @junipersky
      Many of our hobbies are far more problematic than we know.

      Most people don’t realize it is cannon in the DC universe that the Amazons from the island Wonder Woman comes from would set sail into the ocean, find a boat full of men, bang them in a drunken orgy, then murder them all. They would keep the girls but gather all the male children that resulted from the orgy and take them to “man’s world” where they would leave them to be adopted or die.

      Not is, was. Don’t get me wrong, you are absolutely right that this storyline absolutely did happen and was canonical for a few years, but eventually even the notoriously thick DC execs realized it was a bad look for one of their Holy Trinity of characters to be from Girl-Boss Date-Rape Infanticide Man-Murder-Island, especially when she had a movie due out the next year.

      Prior to Nu52, which debuted in 2011, there was no real need for the Amazons to repopulate because the Amazons on Themyscira/Paradise Island were ageless and only ever aged when they left to Man’s World/Patriarch’s World.

      That was the whole reason Diana/Wonder Woman was made from clay, because Hippolyta wanted a child and there were no men to make a baby with. (This was also retconned to make her a demi-god again, which was… not great, because it means her powers were derived from a man, instead of from the Greek Goddesses or her own training and hard work.)

      There was another tribe introduced in the 80s (Post Crisis on Infinite Earths) who absolutely did this, minus the ocean, but they were in Egypt, not Themyscira, and didn’t have immortality. Diana wasn’t from this tribe. And yes, they were also problematic for many reasons I won’t get into now because this post is already way too long.

      In 2016, with DC Rebirth, they apparently wiped the slate clean of Girlboss Gatekeep Gaslight island and set Wonder Woman back up in a way that more resembled the films.

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    • RE: Neitherlands

      @Pavel Personally I accuse you, in the conservatory, with the wireless keyboard.

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    • RE: Neitherlands

      @Whisky I know you said you weren’t particularly attached to your WIP character, but I find this kind of theft of work especially heinous and I’m sorry it happened to you.

      If she’s this unconcerned about ethics just go to ChatGPT (which is trained off stolen copyrighted works), feed it a completed app and ask it to fart out a new app set in the same world in that format.

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    • RE: MU Peeves Thread

      This is as much an “elsewhere” peeve as it is a MU peeve but… AI art of big breasted wasp waisted highly sexualized photo real anime girls whose faces look like they were made using Toddlers and Tiaras photos to train the AI being used for your character on an ordinary MU.

      I know not everyone wants to use real photos, or to pay someone to make good art of your character, but I shouldn’t feel like I’m on a government watchlist from glancing at your character’s profile. 🤢

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    • RE: ETO Drama Fork

      @Pavel said in ETO Drama Fork:

      @Ortallus Egg for your thoughts, little man?

      can I offer you a nice egg

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    • RE: Macha Awareness (And Unappreciation) thread

      @Roz said in Macha Awareness (And Unappreciation) thread:

      She’s not an insidious sexual predator people need serious protection from.

      She absolutely is an insidious sexual predator, it just so happens her targets are typically male presenting characters, and she’s a woman, and that’s rarely taken as seriously as it should be, often including by those she’s victimized, because they don’t want to take away from “real” victims.

      Her predatory behavior might be less overtly offensive than when some dude character pages a female character out of the blue to ask “u wan sum fuk”, but it’s still predatory and sexual in nature, because she refuses to take no for an answer and will keep pestering the object of her unwanted affection until they either give in, involve staff (at which point the complaining player becomes a harassment target for her and any friends she may have), or they leave the game.

      If he happens to have a reason or obstacle not to give her sum fuk, it must be destroyed.

      If the obstacle is another person, she will try to make the IC and OOC relationship go sour and drive the romantic partner in her way off the game. This includes telling wildly exaggerated or wholly invented stories about other players that she can’t back up with logs. She will page the object of her affections outright lies to try and get them to break up.

      If it’s the object of her obsession’s player simply not wanting to give her sum fuk, either because he doesn’t like her or he’s gay or he’s just not into romantic RP?She will do everything she can to drive that player off so she can install a new player who will fuck her like he’s “MEANT” to.

      If she has staff power, she has no problem using that to make players feel unsafe and unwelcome on what ever game was idiotic enough to give her a wizbit.

      These behaviors are highly toxic, sexually predatory, and game breaking, and keeping track of where she’s been serves a purpose of informing folks that they may have encountered her before.

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    • RE: Social/Bar RP

      @Solstice said in Social/Bar RP:

      And Paul Hollywood doesn’t understand

      tacos and tortillas.

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